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  • 17 Oct
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@nohbdy said:
Gotta love all the insecure posturing reactionaries do

It is such a lack of arguments, that it became visible even

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  • 17 Oct
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Hey Rattman, what is your parents opinion on the Soviet Union? Like your grandmother and grandfather, what do they say about it?

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  • 16 Oct
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@nohbdy said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaPgDQkmqqM

Lmao this is so true it even hurts

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  • 16 Oct
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Here in Br people kill a lot of gays too tbh, not because religion though, it's because some people are just completely retardo and hate gays like there is no tomorrow

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  • 16 Oct
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@kEsa1996 said:

@vanguard said:
I always used to flick then click, I was surprised when Alphonse told me about clicking and then flicking.

I didn't even wanted to practice that way because this is how I played m&b as well so I'm kinda used to it.

Damn I wanna test this new patch tbh

You most likely used to do them at the same time as flick > click does absolutely nothing in M&B. If the mouse isn't moving when you click, nothing will happen.

Holy shit, I always thought I was flicking first and then clicking!

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  • 16 Oct
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@UnderPepeGrillosControlΦ said:

Do not compare Arma3 (I am still playing Arma) with CallOfDuty.

Arma3 is a simulator and CallOfDuty no. Arma3 is the best strategic simulator shoting game that offers more than 50 (including mods) gamemodes with 180 players per server in a 270km2 open world terrain.
In the medieval context I can compare Arma3 with KingdomCome, and Mordhau and Chivalry (even with horses) will be like CallOfDuty.
Comparing Chivalry and Mordhau is like compare Fifa14 vs Fifa17: Better graphics, new movements, and some improvements but the game base is the same.

More like chivalry is call of duty and mordhau is battlefield. Similar but different.

And as you said: "At this moment I understand that it appeals more to chiv veterans indeed". Maybe when it does not look like chivalry I will play. I will check the updates but it has to change a lot.

What is looking like chivalry? Graphics wise? The mechanics? Because if it's the last, then my friend you just wasted your money and should have looked at a gameplay video before paying for it.

Since Slasher days you could already see what this game was gonna be like.

And I think I'm not the only one who thinks like that, but maybe the people is tired of saying it and not even enter the forum, like me, almost a month without login.

What you do not understand is that is that we (at least me and my more than 30 friends who bought the game) thought that Mordhau would not be what it is.
Copied from Kickstarter Mordhau website:

  • BELIEVABLE FIGHTS. A game where fights look believable, Mordhau strikes a balance between gameplay and realism. Ballerinas and circus performers are replaced by carefully designed combat mechanics. We are confident that our system solves most of the common problems of this genre, and is also heaps of fun.
    --> Drags are realist? Timing block is realist? Blocking a maul with a dagger is realist?

No, but it's fun gameplay. The devs won't focus on realism. This is not Arma with swords. You just typed that yourself, balance between realism and gameplay, that is, game has unrealistic shit, but it's not on chivalry levels of backswings and all that.

I'd rather have these unrealistic but fun mechanics, then kingdom Come realism but boring and bland as fuck mechanics.

  • Mordhau is being developed by Triternion. We're a young, 10-person international team driven by our passion for melee games and the medieval era. We've accumulated thousands of hours of playtime in awesome titles such as Chivalry, Mount & Blade, War of the Roses, the Jedi Knight series, and many others, too. Having been part of the community as players as well as content creators, we feel we’re in a unique position to use this experience to refine and further evolve the melee genre.
    --> What have Mordhau from Mount&Blade, WarOfTheRoses and many others... ¿Horses? But the combat system is Chivalry.

Chamber abd first hit flinch are 2 things from m&b for instance. Chivalry had by far best combat then these other 2 games, and it's first person. What is the problem in taking what worked good in chivalry?

Like I said, my +30 friends playing Mordhau are done. And I think we are not the only one who think like this.

Yeah idk what you guys expected really. I mean, didn't you watched any video of the fights? The second devblog, that explains clearly how the combat works?

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  • 16 Oct
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Lmao Punzy ahahahshah quality meme imho

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@UnderPepeGrillosControlΦ said:
Well a lot of people said it.

A lot of people do not like Chivalry.

A lot of people expected somehitng better than Chivalry, not a remastered edition with better movements, adding morphs and some new weapons.

What about all the features that are to come like horses and shit? Isn't it a bit to early for you to say this?

This game was made for Chivalry competitive players and a lot of people did not know only watching kickstarter webpage.

At this moment I understand that it appeals more to chiv veterans indeed. But see my previous point.

A lot of people said it at forums and all the competitive players (most active at forum) just insult them, and devs only says that they are not going to change anything from the base (combat system, morphs, feints, etc).

Why would they change the base of the system in the first place?

People are blunt on the internet tbh don't be so sensitive. If you are clueless on the game Mechanics and why things are the way they are, and still you make suggestions about changing the whole combat, people will throw shit at your face, it's nothing but the expected.

Go to Arma 3 forums, ask for call of duty mechanics and see the results lmao.

There are plenty of good suggestions though, and people do recognize them tbh you gotta be fair as well man, it's not all hate.

And, like me, a lot of people is done playing Mordhau.

Maybe you shouldn't play the alpha or beta, but I do believe that the final product is going to please you more imho.

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  • 16 Oct
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@Goatie said:
You all just essentially keep calling anyone of an opposing opinion idiots. What the fuck do you think it's going to achieve dudes.

Well it's what I said man, I was polite as fuck in the beginning of this thread, because I legit wanted to have discussions and shit, but then I noticed that it's really what Furst said:

It's just a shouting contest. It doesn't matter what you say at that point, it just matters that you keep saying it until the other guy gets tired or bored and backs off.

So I started to shout louder against him, and now Furst is a victim and I am Stalin. It's all very sad tbh, but there was good discussions here with other people, all got buried by this noisy pointless shit.

I'm guilty for it as well tbh, I should not have started to shout against him. But it is so fucking hard holy shit

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  • 16 Oct
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NO IM LITERALLY SHAKING

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  • 16 Oct
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@DerFurst said:

@nohbdy said:
That sounds pretty impressive if it were true. It's more so that you Nazi fools can't even hold a conversation with me and never have.

Eventually we get tired of arguing with you because you refuse to admit you're wrong about anything. What kind of debate can we have if you do this? It's just a shouting contest. It doesn't matter what you say at that point, it just matters that you keep saying it until the other guy gets tired or bored and backs off. This is a cartoon character's version of an argument; even Plato wouldn't know what to do with you at that point.

I provide a counter argument; you just deflect it with a straw man that attempts to re-frame my argument in a ridiculous light that you have made up, leading me to repeat myself.

In the most recent argument, you explained that immigration is good and that wanting to keep people out based on culture/race was xenophobic and bad. I explained that immigration is only good if the people you're inviting are willing/capable of assimilating and actually desire to improve your country, rather than just compete for dominance with the people already living there and having constant cultural/racial conflicts. I then explained that altruism is a good tool around friends and dangerous when used with people who consider you their competition rather than friend. None of that was a straw man. In fact, by saying this, you just made a fucking straw man - that's unreal man...

I provide evidence against you; you deflect it with a red herring and ignore it, leading me to start repeating myself again.

Provide evidence of you providing evidence in that last debate will you? All you did then was repeat your talking points with no modification whatsoever.

I call you out on your bullshit; you try to play the oh-so rational "big man" who wants a totalitarian ethno-state, appealing to onlookers' emotions to mask the absurdity of your ideas.

I explained to you that if you're extremely positive towards the immigration of alien peoples and extremely negative towards ethnic and cultural preservation, then that would make you a xenophile, the opposite of a xenophobe. That's not demagoguery, it's completely reasonable and fucking true.

The fact that you seem to get so much support in spite of your completely obvious demagoguery honestly makes me worry about people's critical thinking skills.

You're not going to win people over by guilting them or making them feel stupid for not agreeing with you.

It seems that most people truly aren't well-equipped enough to handle debate, whether it be for participating in it or interpreting it as an onlooker. That being said, I don't mean to insult other people who are reading this though.

You're bound to insult people when you call them stupid for disagreeing though, so trying to say "I don't mean to" doesn't change what you wrote... Either you call them stupid for disagreeing or you don't. You can't have your cake and eat it.

It's not your fault that we live in a society that conditions us to obey, to surrender our consciousness at the sight of charisma, and does not try to properly prepare us for these kinds of situations.

I wouldn't want people to "surrender" themselves to anything I say. I hate it when people ape ideas or defend each other's ideas for purely social rather than rational reasons. People should always be critical with what I say, because it keeps me honest.

I sort of must thank you though. After about 5 years of wasting my time, fruitlessly debating my intellectual opponents, I now have something resembling actual evidence and proof of its pointlessness.

How do you think anarcho-communism is going to work in the future when you're having such fruitless arguments with opinionated people now?


This is truly hell. It's insanity. Why do I even do this with you people.

What the actual fuck, this is the epitome of hypocrisy lmao, indeed it's insanity ahhahahzhah

You truly amaze me Furst.

Just one post above this one you were dishonest as fuck how is this even possible

"It's just a shouting contest. It doesn't matter what you say at that point, it just matters that you keep saying it until the other guy gets tired or bored and backs off. "

This is exactly what you did to me, the very reason why I stopped taking anything you say seriously, it's all in those pages I posted right up there. But instead of getting bored and back off, I get mad and want to kill the first fascists that appears in front of me, which makes me look like literally Stalin and fuck with my valid points lmao

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Well, page 74, 75 and 76 are here for anyone interested in seeing how debating with you works.

See the dishonesty?

"ur a fucking natzee hahhaha i'd exterminate u to be honest"

Is this really true? Funny, I remember that we debated with huge walls of texts, up until page 75. I even agreed with some points of your historical revisionism if I remember properly.

Also in page 6 I'm specially rude and its a
prof of your argument that all I do is call you a Nazi.

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Except Furst himself defend national socialism, just read the fucking thread ffs it's all here. He openly defends this shit, and historical revisionism, and racial superiority.. it's all here man. Why the fuck do you think I call him naziboi? I'm being nice even tbh

How can be even be tired of being called a Nazi if he himself defend this shit, makes no sense. If you read the pages I posted there, I even called the motherfucker Mr. Furst, up until the point I saw he was only doing propaganda, from then on I lowered the level, true. I can only deal with so much demagogy tbh

And the shit he says is common sense? Lmao ok man, I'm gonna imagine here you haven't really followed this thread very closely.

Nohbdy has a tough but fair point. Most of the people here barely understand what class conflict, communism, capitalism or any other term even means, it's all "lmao, I see capitalism like this, is trade, is freedom hueee xD", how the fuck are they going to see the bullshit if they don't even have a basic understanding of the subject?

These terms are like tools for thought. You might think about the shit he is saying, yes, but are you using the right tools? Just look at how he defines capitalism, completely wrong definition tbh, I dare you to repeat these things he says in any serious University.

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  • 16 Oct
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@LιиgLιиg said:
@vanguard
Do YOU read his posts? Go back to page 216 to see furst completely dismantle nohbody's stance on immigration and page 217 to see you immediately after post the same shit youre posting now.

If I read his post? Bitch more then half of this thread is me debating with him. I gave up lots of pages behind to take him seriously exactly because the demagogy shit, it's just a waste of time.

If you even care, go to page 75 and read it carefully, maybe it's worth to read 74 and 76 as well. That was when I saw it was hopeless and gave up in taking Furst seriously. Page 87 I even tried again, but notice how there was no answer. Page 97 he even acknowledge that he does repeat himself. It took me 75 pages discussing with him before I gave up, because he isn't trying to debate anything, just shoving his agenda up your ass with beautiful but meaningless words.

It really amazes me that you can't see this

Went there on 216, didn't saw any dismantle of arguments. That's exactly why I posted what I posted, Survii and Furst come and say "hue we won debate lmao", when that actually have not happened. In fact it's the very opposite, nohbdy answer Furst, then Punzy comes up with a meme and then "yeah debate over we win".

Cheap tactic tbh, used not only once in this very thread.

Furst makes new posts that are interesting to read (even if I don't agree necessarily with his point) at least. You keep just spamming the same boring shit over and over.

You are clearly biased when you say this. Most of his post here can be summed up as a spam of "evil cryptojew conspiracy" or racial cancer.

Riding his naziboi dick much?

He is speech-y sometimes, but if you read it outside of your own perspective, there is usually a fair amount of substance to his posts.

Only sometimes eh? Then why not only me, but other people here as well has called him out in his bullshit demagogy, on many subjects that not only history or Economy?

Lmao just read these pages I told ya.

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  • 16 Oct
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@LιиgLιиg said:

@Punzybobo said:

@vanguard said:

@Punzybobo said:

@nohbdy said:

I provided a counter argument

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It is true though, you nazibois are coward as fuck in debates, only use intelectual dishonesty, or not even answer our arguments properly. That is, when you fuckos answer at all and not simply meme or just run away.

Like you just did! Thanks Punzy

Wow, I didn't realize reiterating your points were arguments!

No you misunderstood. Its because you didn't answer properly. A proper response needs at least 1 drunk death wish toward an entire nation and you have to recommend your favorite books, otherwise you are a dishonest coward.

Edit: also, if you disagree with my point, it also wasnt a proper response. It only counts if you agree with me.

Do you even read the things furst post, his answers and shit? Proper answer is when you at least try to address the opposing points tbh, I'm not asking for anything else imho this is some basic dialogue shit, sometimes feels like it's not even a discussion, but a speech.

Nazibois never address your points, it's what I'm trying to say.

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@Monkeytoes said:

@vanguard said:

@Monkeytoes said:

@vanguard said:

@Monkeytoes said:
Oh the wonders of capitalism!

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Truly wonderful!

gulag.jpeg

kek

Stop der fursting me with this social democrat american liberal fuckery boi, you know your system is retardo just like the USSR, if not even worse hehe

i was just kekking you tbh

gulag is a non-example of communism

All is serious business what even is joke

Guys look

Dafuck is this game, american wizardry tbh

That Witcher video made me want to play it, never played any Witcher game

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  • 15 Oct
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@Monkeytoes said:

@vanguard said:

@Monkeytoes said:
Oh the wonders of capitalism!

images (1).jpg

images.jpg

Truly wonderful!

gulag.jpeg

kek

Stop der fursting me with this social democrat american liberal fuckery boi, you know your system is retardo just like the USSR, if not even worse hehe

@Smeelio said:
Half-Life Blue Shift Hidden Scientist.png
If we're doing Half-Life, then in Blue Shift you can find this scientist hiding up in/on the vent system

Holy shit I remember this!

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@Punzybobo said:

@nohbdy said:

I provided a counter argument

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It is true though, you nazibois are coward as fuck in debates, only use intelectual dishonesty, or not even answer our arguments properly. That is, when you fuckos answer at all and not simply meme or just run away.

Like you just did! Thanks Punzy

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I always used to flick then click, I was surprised when Alphonse told me about clicking and then flicking.

I didn't even wanted to practice that way because this is how I played m&b as well so I'm kinda used to it.

Damn I wanna test this new patch tbh