Mordhau
 VernFonk
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  • 12 Jul
 VernFonk

@ThunderDuck bc why not 😏

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  • 11 Jul
 VernFonk

@Antoniokontos I just got it too. It's a real grind

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  • 11 Jul
 VernFonk

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"Gendarme" 3/3/3 Bloodlust Arming sword

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Landsknecht

@MortissMonster I hadn't thought of using the gambeson for Vanguard, I'll give it a try.

Knight 31 30
  • 24 May
 VernFonk

@ThunderDuck said:
Any other Mordscape 2004 players here?
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lmao

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  • 12 May '16
 VernFonk

The Bedouin woman fighting in WW1 is straight up fantasy though.

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  • 11 May '16
 VernFonk

Treyarch is most likely already in the works of making their next COD, and if it's not something based in history, Activision Is fucked.

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  • 11 May '16
 VernFonk

H Y P E
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We have prosperous gaming days ahead of us, with Mordhau ; Bannerlord ; Of kings and Men and Kingdom Come Deliverance.

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  • 11 May '16
 VernFonk

@ToLazy4Name said:
by the Jews at EA, and forced diversity bullshit in the single player courtesy of DICE (a Swedish company, if anyone can believe it).

You just revealed your power level.

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  • 11 May '16
 VernFonk

@TheDankestMeme said:

@VernFonk said:

@TheDankestMeme said:

@ToLazy4Name said:

@Binfen said:
Neat

Let the memes begin

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Dank.

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THE DANKEST !

Knight 31 30
  • 11 May '16
 VernFonk

@TheDankestMeme said:

@ToLazy4Name said:

@Binfen said:
Neat

Let the memes begin

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Dank.

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  • 11 May '16
 VernFonk

Those helms seem easy to slide your sword through. :)

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  • 10 May '16
 VernFonk

@vanguard said:

@VernFonk said:

@Sammy said:
Also, considering the game has it's own lore I imagine females could be warriors in this time.

Now can we just stop debating this? D:

Unless there's magic involved, you can't have both men and women be naturally predisposed to becoming warriors. Otherwise who would nurse the children and take care of the household ?

In the lore, we could be dealing with some sort of total war situation or a revolution even, like a very, VERY ugly political and economical scenario where the region will recover only after 40 years, supposing it will ever recover. In the aftermatch, we could have forces from far away places taking advantage of this fallen kingdom and its weakness caused by this huge internal crisis and war.

Thats fantasy, but "realistic". I think in this scenario, female fighters are acceptable. Most people in these fucked up situation end up being meat shield for the bigger boys anyways. We could have 15 years old kids for all I care, and it wouldstill sounds kinda realistic imo because in the end, it could not be realistic medieval wise, but kids and females in war is something that I can accept because well, it could have happened in another reality and mordhau is another reality!

In that case I guess it makes sense, and I actually like where you're going there.

I don't think humans are naturally predisposed to be something. We can all train and learn and be a beautiful butterfly if so we want, it all depends on the social context you are.

Obviously not all men should be fighting all the time, but there remains a natural instinct of protecting ones family/tribe/nation in men, and a maternal instinct In women.

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  • 10 May '16
 VernFonk

@Sammy said:
Also, considering the game has it's own lore I imagine females could be warriors in this time.

Now can we just stop debating this? D:

Unless there's magic involved, you can't have both men and women be naturally predisposed to becoming warriors. Otherwise who would nurse the children and take care of the household ?

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  • 10 May '16
 VernFonk

@Tibrr said:
Isn't this from fat kid plays black ops?

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"Did you just call me fat ?"

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  • 10 May '16
 VernFonk

@mrjoe said:
Hopefully all races are included too. I really don't give a shit about females but I'm more on the side of not including them. But every ethnitcy should be included; I wanna form a steam group of the Veteran African Pikemen Unit.

To add to the discussion, I pretty much agree with what VernFork is saying. Women being added wouldn't make me think "OK this is shit game" but it'd make me be kinda annoyed. Not trying to be one of those guys, but I honestly prefer realism as well as fun game mechanics, which also blend into realism. And you can tell Mordhau is going for a more realism oriented route than Chivalry; headshots being an instant kill without a helmet, armor being more meaningful than Chivalry, maps that aren't too far into fantasy (Marox or some dev mentioned somewhere that they are really going for maps like the citadel), alternative weapon stances, clashing, chambering, partial dismemberment, removal of reversal moves, etc; which is all entirely a good thing, and I can not wait to get this game.

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More races means a bigger variety in maps ,weapons, and armor. So why not ?

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  • 9 May '16
 VernFonk

@LordColonelAxeman said:

@Huggles said:
Also, women are in no way a fantasy element.

They probably are for people who would lose their shit if there were women in their game.

It's not simply about there being women, but there being women where they don't belong in a realistic setting.

Which I thought mordhau was, but apparently not.

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  • 9 May '16
 VernFonk

@ToLazy4Name said:
Yeah, I think we've pretty much exhausted all lines of reasoning regarding the topic from both sides of the argument.

Wait... we haven't done the name calling yet !

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  • 9 May '16
 VernFonk

@Sammy said:
I think this discussion needs to end, it's not going anywhere.

Let's just see what the devs do!

I agree.

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  • 9 May '16
 VernFonk

@ToLazy4Name said:

@VernFonk said:
Maybe because we don't want women being shoehorned into all our games, and we value realism over fantasy, this is why we play these types of games.

I doubt the addition of women would be shoehorned considering the devs themselves aren't exactly big on the idea and we're having a huge discussion over the topic with plenty of voices on both sides.

I'm just as annoyed about recent trends of shoving people of different race and gender into scenarios where it makes no sense, but this wouldn't be one of those cases. It'd literally be "We want people to be able to customize their character more, thus we allow them to CHOOSE, key word CHOOSE, their avatar's gender."

Oh also, "we value realism over fantasy" is something I wholeheartedly disagree with and so do the devs, if Marox's little speech about realism at the end of the 2nd dev blog is anything to go by. Not that I value fantasy, but I don't have absolutely no value in realism.

I understand the reasons why some people want it to be implemented and why it would be, but I still find it'll be immersion breaking.

When I say fantasy, I mean magic and dragons. And to me, having female warriors dwells in that realm.

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  • 9 May '16
 VernFonk

@Huggles said:

@VernFonk said:

@Huggles said:
The ignorance of some of you peeps is astounding tbh.

I imagine if females were added they would look more like Brienne of Tarth than they would a slutty anime school girl with steel plated triple D breasts.

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You'd be insane to call that immersion breaking. As long as they keep female warriors gritty, muscular, and pretty much as far removed from feminine as possible there's no issue.

What I was trying to say is that female fighters were so rare that implementing them in the game would be pointless.

Even if there was a limited number of females allowed per game I'd lose my shit.

The thing is, I don't really see how a simple addition that would add more customization options and player freedom with the added benefit of welcoming in women to gaming is pointless. Especially if it is done in a way that will fit the overall theme and atmosphere of the game rather than catering to teenage boys who just want to play as some skanky warrior chick.

I don't really see how having in-game character's that look like Brienne of Tarth would make you lose your shit.

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Maybe because we don't want women being shoehorned into all our games, and we value realism over fantasy, this is why we play these types of games.

The rights to making a game belong to the devs and the rights to playing a game belong to all those who bought the game. Mordhau set out to be realistic in the sense that fights look good and believable, not in the sense that anything in the game is set in history or completely represenative of the medieval world. Rather, it sets out to create its own world and while it is inspired by the medieval times in our actual history, it isn't trying to replicate it.

Also, women are in no way a fantasy element.

I just don't see any real argument against adding in women to the gme if it is done tactfully and proffessionally.

I understand. It's just my autism and craving for maximum realism speaking.

If the devs want to add female characters, I'll respect that.