Mordhau
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  • 18 Jul
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When is this GARBAGE getting removed? I find duels boring, and I'm tired of every single match of frontline being crossroads.

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  • 16 Jul
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Cool idea. But it's EU: (

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  • 16 Jul
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@SWSeriousMike said:

@Dialectic said:

@SWSeriousMike said:
Dishonest it is. Understood.

I'd say your example was dishonest as you made a false equivolence, but the ops poll is just an unprofessional opinion poll.

I since edited that statement because I haven't read your second reply at that time.

I could always say that my example wasn't dishonest because it is just an unprofessional opinion poll. Wouldn't that be an oddly unsatisfying reply? Kind of like: JuSt A pRaNk BrO

You omitted a yes/no answer from a yes/no question to demonstrate your example, but he did not. His error was in accuracy of the question. I don't find this to be loaded.

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  • 16 Jul
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@SWSeriousMike said:
So now you understand it is a loaded poll? Good to know. I was beginning to worry.

No, it's not the same. Also, why do you insult people as often as you do?

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  • 16 Jul
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@SWSeriousMike said:
Dishonest it is. Understood.

I'd say your example was dishonest as you made a false equivolence, but the ops poll is just an unprofessional opinion poll.

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  • 16 Jul
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I'll help Mike out. The opinion poll doesn't mean much scientifically on many levels, one of which is the presumption that a racist wouldnt answer in defense of themselves. So if there 10 people, 9 of them hate black people for various delusional reasons, and the poll is "is this place racist?" They may all say no, because they don't view themselves in an accurate way. This would skew results in favor of showing that the "place" is not racist when it very well may be.

So the better question might be "do you think blacks are inferior in all ways due to being black?". I'm not a pollster but this seems a more accurate question.

However, it's just an internet opinion poll.

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  • 16 Jul
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@SWSeriousMike said:
Here is another unloaded poll for you:

Have you read the poll?

[ ] No.
[ ] Santa isn't real.
[ ] 42
[ ] Who let the dogs out?
[ ] Parts of it.
[ ] I've got to be honest. I'm only here to argue.


There is "sjw nonsense" in the thread title. There are answers that are redundant and an answer that is completely irrelevant. It isn't specified if the game or the community is the subject of the poll. And then there is this statement outright admitting that it isn't neutral:
"I'm referring to the journalists lambasting the dev's over false information. Politicizing comments made by the devs to create clickbait articles."

What is it this time? Are you dishonest or gullible?

In your example you don't offer the basic answer "yes" to the yes/no question of your example poll, so I agree your example poll is loaded.

However, OP's poll offers a yes/no answer to the yes/no question, and the question doesn't attempt to assume anything. The additional answers are traditional internet joke answers for opinion polls.

The title of the thread reveals a bias in OP's position, which may be important in a professional national poll but has no bearing on an unprofessional forum opinion poll. Besides, everyone has personal bias.

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  • 16 Jul
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@SWSeriousMike said:
So, you admit that it is a prejudiced poll with a loaded question and favoring one specific outcome? Why did you try to deny it before?

"Is mordhau racist? Yes or no"

That's a loaded question to you? It's a simple opinion poll. He can post a simple opinion poll without having to contact a professional pollster for a full academic review.

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  • 16 Jul
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@SWSeriousMike said:

@Dialectic said:
Saying someone lacks the spine to support tolerance is presumptive and inflammatory. Why should I take your position if you treat me with such toxicity?

I also called you anti-intellectual and dishonest. And you seem fine with proving me right instead of denying it.

Do you find it ironic that the ones arguing for chat regulations are often "toxic" to people they disagree with?

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  • 16 Jul
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13) RNG Trebs on Camp. Why? They shoot at their own teammates. How stupid is this shit?

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  • 15 Jul
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@smokratez said:

@Dialectic said:

@smokratez said:

@Dialectic said:
Mixing of races in an environment is not comparable to genocide.

What do you call it then when all white people will be gone one day?

Depends on context. If its europe then id call it voluntary depopulation, since their society has decided to not maintai familiy units and arent having babies.

But i also don't agree with your basic premise that any race is in danger of being extinct.

voluntary

Do some research if you think all of this is voluntary.

But i also don't agree with your basic premise that any race is in danger of being extinct.

Again, some research would help you change your stance on that topic.

Statistical trends change all the time. And as long as it's in relation to having fewer babies and having less secure families, then it's not genocide. Abortion is a type of genocide, but that's a violent act and a different topic.

Further, race isnt my concern. Free markets and inalienable rights protected in America by the bill of rights are my concern politically. I don't care if my great great great grandchildren are all brown, so long as they know what freedom is and why it's worth defending.

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  • 15 Jul
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@smokratez said:

@Dialectic said:
Mixing of races in an environment is not comparable to genocide.

What do you call it then when all white people will be gone one day?

Depends on context. If its europe then id call it voluntary depopulation, since their society has decided to not maintai familiy units and arent having babies.

But i also don't agree with your basic premise that any race is in danger of being extinct.

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  • 15 Jul
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Mixing of races in an environment is not comparable to genocide.

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  • 15 Jul
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@SWSeriousMike said:

@Dialectic said:
I'd be fine with an auto filter and/or report feature in game, so long as implementation didn't take away from more important things like modes, maps, and balance.

More important to whom?

Myself. I'd wager a sizable portion of the playerbase as well, but cant really tell either way nor can I argue on behalf of the entire playerbase.

Just like you can only address my point in relation to your own position. So asking this question "more important to whom" I think can be misleading.

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  • 15 Jul
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@SWSeriousMike said:

@Dialectic said:

@OccidentalOverdose said:

@CatR said:
Eid Of Norway of course neglects to mention the Jewish and Romani presence in the 19th and 20th centuries, which were greatly diminished in the 1940s due to the systemic extermination of these peoples.

Jews and gypsies were never found in large numbers in Norway, and their presence in Europe has always been destructive. They certainly didn't shape European history in a meaningful and positive way. They have always been to Europe what fleas are to a dog.

Look, a scumbag. And I read his post and it hasn't ruined my life. Also I can ignore it and probably block him. See how easy this is?

Did you enjoy reading it? Would you miss reading it when he was banned?
What is it you are fighting here for? And don't give me that freedom of speech crap. That doesn't apply here at all.

No I didn't enjoy it. Interestingly I don't enjoy reading your stuff either. Perhaps it's not a good metric for banning.

I'd be fine with an auto filter and/or report feature in game, so long as implementation didn't take away from more important things like modes, maps, and balance.

I dont agree with perma bans for words as chat can be turned off.

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  • 15 Jul
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@smug said:

@smokratez said:

@smug said:
Consequences for being retarded isn't censorship.

Censoring people for saying things you don't like isn't rightful or justified. It's an abuse of power because you are scared of what they say. You know your side is set of a throne of lies. You want to censor people because you fear the truth.

I dont want their posts deleted or ability to say anything taken away, what I want is temp bans or any sort of punishment.

Temp bans exist. So why are you arguing?

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  • 15 Jul
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@SWSeriousMike said:
My position is that this is just your opinion which you want to back with bullshit alternative facts. I very much dislike that.

The tools are not sufficient as you can see by various threads complaining about trolls.

I also don't think that community is full of racists. There is just some alt-right ultra-nationalist, hardcore racist, misogynists and antisemites not even hiding but just outright obviously perpetuating their bullshit while most of the community is just totally indifferent to it, probably because of a lack of fore- and hindsight. The idea that every opinion is valuable and every discussion has to be allowed is ridiculous. I can easily come up with multiplayer games with less toxicity. The whole "some other games are also bad" non-sense is completely pointless, dishonest and anti-intellectual.

Nothing is to be gained by letting toxic behavior thrive. It's per definition completely negative. You are not promoting tolerance. You just lack the spine to say something about it.

I also don't believe that the devs support racism. I get the impression that they are as a whole neutral to it because there is no clear consensus among them. They are not doing anything about or what they do is not really noticeable. They can't even state their opinion on that matter. The accusation that they might condone racism is really not unjust.

Your statement about me backing things with "alternative facts" is oddly hostile. To what are you referring?

And yes this is the rub of the matter that theres a disagreement in sufficiency of the tools available. That's the gist, with the other elements being hyperbolic (like who does or does support/condone racism).

Threads complaining about trolls isn't enough evidence to suggest that the tools aren't sufficient, demonstrated by the fact that people still complain of toxicity in highly regulated AAA games. Triternion has no chance of implementing systems on par with AAA systems (I assume), so I believe this is an unfair and ultimately fruitless argument.

In for honor there was a lot of complaints of toxicity and racism. They then set a feature to turn off chat. Everyone was happy. I wonder why this isn't enough for you.

Saying someone lacks the spine to support tolerance is presumptive and inflammatory. Why should I take your position if you treat me with such toxicity?

What do you mean when you say there's nothing to gain by "letting toxicity thrive" ?

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  • 15 Jul
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@OccidentalOverdose said:

@CatR said:
Eid Of Norway of course neglects to mention the Jewish and Romani presence in the 19th and 20th centuries, which were greatly diminished in the 1940s due to the systemic extermination of these peoples.

Jews and gypsies were never found in large numbers in Norway, and their presence in Europe has always been destructive. They certainly didn't shape European history in a meaningful and positive way. They have always been to Europe what fleas are to a dog.

Look, a scumbag. And I read his post and it hasn't ruined my life. Also I can ignore it and probably block him. See how easy this is?

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  • 15 Jul
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@SWSeriousMike said:
If smoking causes cancer, why do people that don't smoke get cancer too?
Checkmate, atheists!

Do you think that's comparable given there are multiple types of cancers not related to smoking, while the point regarding racism is more specific?

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  • 15 Jul
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@SWSeriousMike said:
That's not how science works.

What do you mean?