@Shovonem said:
Some people complain about OP shield and yet you barely see them in high level.
Playing halberd, zwei, but not the shield because high level players have a bit of pride you see.
Don't know if you're being sarcastic but people don't care about pride in high level. People use what works. 'Pride' applies for the same people who cried about feints in chivalry and still crying about it in mordhau. Comp players play for winning.
Dude, this is an alpha with broken shit all over the place, everyone is aware shield is a joke, if someone went serious bik competitive shielboi now, it would probably mean he should be mentally evaluated.
@Xatrian said:
Except everyone wasn't excluding him since he wasn't banned from the private servers that he was playing on. The proverbial owners of the restaurants weren't throwing him out for screaming through a megaphone and pissing on other customers.
Yeah, sorry but hosting a server doesn't make you a restaurant owner in this case. Product belongs to the devs, and if people encounter toxic people calling them niggers, the damage will be to the devs' product, not your server.
He was doing the same on official servers, so that's not even a valid point.
@Pred said:
grasping at straws and trying to come up with procedural loopholes in an unfinished closed Alpha because the toxic troll who did everything possible to get banned
Except there was no rule, precedent, or warning that he'd get banned. So no, there was never anything possible to do to get banned.
Thanks for proving my point, lol.
If somebody is unable to recognize what basic norms should be adhered to without having them explicitly written, it is in the best interest of everyone else to exclude this person. Actually, if someone managed to consistently break ALL OF THESE NORMS, it means he definitely was aware of them. The whole "there are no rules written, so you can't be punished for anything" defense is just laughable, fucking DOGS can tell they did something wrong when they chew up your sofa cushions.
I'm pretty sure none of the restaurants in my area explicitly forbid you to scream through a megaphone and piss on other customers. Nobody seems to be doing that though, because they are not retarded.
You seem to forget that it was him insulting the devs that was the problem, not the community. Pissing on the community is allowed :)
I didn't forget, I already addressed this point - if you want to blame the devs for not banning him earlier, that's understandable. Create a new thread asking devs to improve in the future and start getting rid of trolls at much earlier stages, and I will definitely be there to support your case. In no way this point helps Lazy's case though.
@Pred said:
grasping at straws and trying to come up with procedural loopholes in an unfinished closed Alpha because the toxic troll who did everything possible to get banned
Except there was no rule, precedent, or warning that he'd get banned. So no, there was never anything possible to do to get banned.
Thanks for proving my point, lol.
If somebody is unable to recognize what basic norms should be adhered to without having them explicitly written, it is in the best interest of everyone else to exclude this person. Actually, if someone managed to consistently break ALL OF THESE NORMS, it means he definitely was aware of them. The whole "there are no rules written, so you can't be punished for anything" defense is just laughable, fucking DOGS can tell they did something wrong when they chew up your sofa cushions.
I'm pretty sure none of the restaurants in my area explicitly forbid you to scream through a megaphone and piss on other customers. Nobody seems to be doing that though, because they are not retarded.
ITT: grasping at straws and trying to come up with procedural loopholes in an unfinished closed Alpha because the toxic troll who did everything possible to get banned was your fren.
Game hasn't been released, it lacks features protecting the experience of players (no admins, no timeout for TD, no vote kick system in place), on top of that there is limited population, and usually only one server populated per region, so there is no escaping from a single trolling tard just by going somewhere else.
In this vulnerable environment we should expect basic decency from everyone, if someone is instead using all of this to his advantage so he can be even more toxic, he deserves extra severe punishment.
Stab drags have been overnerfed by timing adjustments and the animation is bad, resulting in ghost swings at the end of the stab.
Delayed strikes kinda work, but not as well as they should because of the gamble-to-FTP defensive meta.
Side hits were supposed to be easier this patch, but they seem much harder, for 2h weapons at least? Parry box seems clunky. I don't attempt them anymore, just feint and morph feint like a madman.
People with 1H I just actively avoid, no point getting frustrated.
Yeah, 1v1 combat for me is extremely boring now. Don't agree with any of the OP points though.
@Cswic said:
The incentive is to kill the enemy archers if you are counter arching in order to prevent them from killing your melee.
Let's not kid ourselves that this will be anyone's priority.
Why do you find that so far-fetched? The main threat to yourself as an archer is other archers which also happen to be a threat to your team overall. There doesn't need to be the threat of huntsman hanging over you to go after enemy archers first. The archers that decide to ignore enemy archers and go after melee more will just be shot in the long run.
Because people want kills in the game and won't care about playing a role of protecting their melee. They will get more and easier kills shooting melee players.
We've already seen how it plays out in Chivalry, no one with a bow ever bothered to shoot archers because you had to shoot far, isolated target twice, while you could easily rack up kills spamming into the incoming mass of melee players and get them sweet triple kills.
If you are an archer, enemy archers are most of the time the people furthest from you. They are also usually partially hiding behind various obstacles. They are often on full health unless you already shot them yourself. Melee players are out in the open, closer to you, closer to each other, so missing one of them still gives you a chance to hit another. They are most of the time wounded, lowering your potential HTK.
If archers have no incentive to shoot other archers, why should they bother, when there are easier, closer targets? We all played Chivalry, right?
@vanguard said:
I think its cool, idk. More like funny, Monty Python's silly fighting techniques or something like this.
Personally, I see no problem with it.
It may be funny if it's not viable and you rarely see it, but when le epic medieval group fights consistently look like that, it's not very good tbh imo. And that's kinda how they be, amirite.
Also, lower body movement is still a mess, you go gliding and pirouetting while your torso is looking north, your feet pointing southeast and you move west backwards, while your legs keep clipping through each other.
the heck? there's nothing wrong in that clip
This guy is not "fighting while utilizing footwork", he's "running around looking for people to hit". You should eat fries with ketchup, not ketchup with fries.
This is not easily visible in this particular clip, because he's constantly changing direction, but running/walking animations are pretty messy:
Head and torso are pointing in direction 1, feet in direction 2, while he's moving in direction 3. People move like that all the time.
@vanguard said:
I think its cool, idk. More like funny, Monty Python's silly fighting techniques or something like this.
Personally, I see no problem with it.
It may be funny if it's not viable and you rarely see it, but when le epic medieval group fights consistently look like that, it's not very good tbh imo. And that's kinda how they be, amirite.
Also, lower body movement is still a mess, you go gliding and pirouetting while your torso is looking north, your feet pointing southeast and you move west backwards, while your legs keep clipping through each other.
@idiotgod said:
Their goal seems to be to make it so nubs don't die as fast
What? Noobs get annihilated in 3 seconds by 3x stab combo. You land the first attack because it's so fast they didn't parry in time, then they do 2 misparries so you get 2 additional free hits and that's it. After they get a grip on the speed and are sometimes able to parry, you just throw in 1 combo feint in the process and you are good to go again. That's how it was when people with Beta access joined.
11 Oct
PredDude, this is an alpha with broken shit all over the place, everyone is aware shield is a joke, if someone went serious bik competitive shielboi now, it would probably mean he should be mentally evaluated.
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6 Oct
PredYeah, sorry but hosting a server doesn't make you a restaurant owner in this case. Product belongs to the devs, and if people encounter toxic people calling them niggers, the damage will be to the devs' product, not your server.
He was doing the same on official servers, so that's not even a valid point.
I didn't forget, I already addressed this point - if you want to blame the devs for not banning him earlier, that's understandable. Create a new thread asking devs to improve in the future and start getting rid of trolls at much earlier stages, and I will definitely be there to support your case. In no way this point helps Lazy's case though.
6 Oct
PredThanks for proving my point, lol.
If somebody is unable to recognize what basic norms should be adhered to without having them explicitly written, it is in the best interest of everyone else to exclude this person. Actually, if someone managed to consistently break ALL OF THESE NORMS, it means he definitely was aware of them. The whole "there are no rules written, so you can't be punished for anything" defense is just laughable, fucking DOGS can tell they did something wrong when they chew up your sofa cushions.
I'm pretty sure none of the restaurants in my area explicitly forbid you to scream through a megaphone and piss on other customers. Nobody seems to be doing that though, because they are not retarded.
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6 Oct
PredITT: grasping at straws and trying to come up with procedural loopholes in an unfinished closed Alpha because the toxic troll who did everything possible to get banned was your fren.
4 Oct
PredGame hasn't been released, it lacks features protecting the experience of players (no admins, no timeout for TD, no vote kick system in place), on top of that there is limited population, and usually only one server populated per region, so there is no escaping from a single trolling tard just by going somewhere else.
In this vulnerable environment we should expect basic decency from everyone, if someone is instead using all of this to his advantage so he can be even more toxic, he deserves extra severe punishment.
3 Oct
PredDUDE, HE DIDN'T GET A WARNING
SOME OF IT HAPPENED ON A PRIVATE SERVER
THERE IS NO WRITTEN RULE SAYING IT'S FORBIDDEN TO BE A TOXIC SHIT
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3 Oct
PredThe real question is why did it take months to ban a retard dedicated to constant harassment and trolling.
I would hope devs learn from this situation and react much faster in similar cases in future.
29 Sep
PredBut that would only buff slashing weapons vs T3 armor in 1v1 scanario, right?
26 Sep
PredFirst the caps on voice pitch need to be adjusted so you can't go with the helium voice in the first place.
But yeah, even after that some people will probably find an annoying line to spam, so it would be nice to have nonetheless.
25 Sep
PredI would like a corny home decor sign like this:
Only saying "YOU MOVE WITH A GRACE OF A DRUNKEN PEASANT"
22 Sep
PredBlashpemy
21 Sep
PredStab drags have been overnerfed by timing adjustments and the animation is bad, resulting in ghost swings at the end of the stab.
Delayed strikes kinda work, but not as well as they should because of the gamble-to-FTP defensive meta.
Side hits were supposed to be easier this patch, but they seem much harder, for 2h weapons at least? Parry box seems clunky. I don't attempt them anymore, just feint and morph feint like a madman.
People with 1H I just actively avoid, no point getting frustrated.
Yeah, 1v1 combat for me is extremely boring now. Don't agree with any of the OP points though.
20 Sep
PredShould I buy this game?
Tell me.
Heard it was super buggy at release, did they fix any of it or do they support their game the Torn Banner way?
18 Sep
PredBecause people want kills in the game and won't care about playing a role of protecting their melee. They will get more and easier kills shooting melee players.
We've already seen how it plays out in Chivalry, no one with a bow ever bothered to shoot archers because you had to shoot far, isolated target twice, while you could easily rack up kills spamming into the incoming mass of melee players and get them sweet triple kills.
18 Sep
PredLet's not kid ourselves that this will be anyone's priority.
18 Sep
PredIf you are an archer, enemy archers are most of the time the people furthest from you. They are also usually partially hiding behind various obstacles. They are often on full health unless you already shot them yourself. Melee players are out in the open, closer to you, closer to each other, so missing one of them still gives you a chance to hit another. They are most of the time wounded, lowering your potential HTK.
If archers have no incentive to shoot other archers, why should they bother, when there are easier, closer targets? We all played Chivalry, right?
18 Sep
PredThis guy is not "fighting while utilizing footwork", he's "running around looking for people to hit". You should eat fries with ketchup, not ketchup with fries.
This is not easily visible in this particular clip, because he's constantly changing direction, but running/walking animations are pretty messy:
Head and torso are pointing in direction 1, feet in direction 2, while he's moving in direction 3. People move like that all the time.
18 Sep
PredIt may be funny if it's not viable and you rarely see it, but when le epic medieval group fights consistently look like that, it's not very good tbh imo. And that's kinda how they be, amirite.
Also, lower body movement is still a mess, you go gliding and pirouetting while your torso is looking north, your feet pointing southeast and you move west backwards, while your legs keep clipping through each other.
17 Sep
Predhttps://streamable.com/j43be
Or ugly helicoptering? Not sure what to think.
15 Sep
PredWhat? Noobs get annihilated in 3 seconds by 3x stab combo. You land the first attack because it's so fast they didn't parry in time, then they do 2 misparries so you get 2 additional free hits and that's it. After they get a grip on the speed and are sometimes able to parry, you just throw in 1 combo feint in the process and you are good to go again. That's how it was when people with Beta access joined.