@SandorClegane said:
To make it true to life. I know you guys aren't going for 100% realism, and that's a good thing for overall game play. But you guys do seem to try to respect certain physical aspects of weapons in terms of realism, such as simulated damage, reach, wind-up, etc. That's why I think the bastard sword needs it's stats changed to at least have a longer reach than longsword, since in real life it was slightly longer than longsword and considered to be an in-between of the long sword and great sword.
@Aodlop said:
We can have hotkeys to perform mouse actions and swing our weapon in every way, but we can't have that for parry...yet. Would you want to?
Blocks don't work like M&B. By having the enemies weapon at the centre of your screen as you parry, you essentially do a directional block as you only block at that point and not all around yourself. It's pointless in this game.
Now if you're suggesting that we have held directional block ie. full M&B mode, you might as well go play M&B as this game's pacing and balancing is way different.
@Quadsword said:
Then people will just start using short weapons all the time because long weapons would be too much of a liability with this mechanic. Then we'll be here complaining that one handers are the meta and the whole cycle begins anew.
No game is ever going to have completely even usage of the entire arsenal, no matter how much you force it. Some items will always be favored by a majority of players. The only way to have a truly balanced game would be to have everyone fight in heavy armor with a long sword and remove everything else, but that'd get boring pretty fast, eh?
There's been a few videos on the topic of absolute balance in video games and how if you have it the game becomes infinitely more boring because it becomes so predictable you can call a game before it even begins. You can't have absolute balance and an interesting game with lots of variety, as the variety is in itself unbalanced.
Would unironically be hype for Indian weapons and armour tbh. Maybe even for the devs to expand their time frame scope to include antiquity period stuff for muh full RP.
Speaking of, can we have the 2 eye hole aventail and helm as shown in this pic please?
Block melee mode. This is just a parry, albeit with a larger hit box (not nearly as large as the one it has now, but larger than 1h by itself) and maybe slightly longer active time. Recovery could even be longer for larger shields and shorter for something like the buckler.
Block ranges mode. This is the held block as it is now, however against melee the area is much smaller and stam drain is much harsher (reasoning being you are absorbing all of the energy from that strike rather than deflecting it away like you should). Against ranged everything stays the same.
This way you have a good anti ranged tool while also having to engage in melee with the same timing rules as everyone else.
Guys come on, literally the best of both worlds here and we're having a hissy fit over dumb shit. All the other suggestions here have been "make shield bad" instead of addressing the issue of shields ignoring the timing aspect of combat. Let's use those Jimmy Neutron brains of ours and come up with a feasible solution that actually solves the core issue.
@SWSeriousMike said:
The shield could be held up all the time and only parries have to be timed. Would require some overly dramatic animations though so that you are not able to hide your parry.
That'd be cool. Maybe when you parry you wind up the shield and swipe, like a Dark Souls parry?
I don't see how this leads to RSI more than an extended combo window, but I do agree the way it is now is a bit silly. You think you'd want visual confirmation that you've struck someone before committing to a combo rather than queuing up like 5 attacks before you've even seen where the first one went.
Block melee mode. This is just a parry, albeit with a larger hit box (not nearly as large as the one it has now, but larger than 1h by itself) and maybe slightly longer active time. Recovery could even be longer for larger shields and shorter for something like the buckler.
Block ranges mode. This is the held block as it is now, however against melee the area is much smaller and stam drain is much harsher (reasoning being you are absorbing all of the energy from that strike rather than deflecting it away like you should). Against ranged everything stays the same.
This way you have a good anti ranged tool while also having to engage in melee with the same timing rules as everyone else. I don't know how you would choose which block you wanted without making it so you can't use your weapons alt grip but something to consider.
Dude, Mordhau's fluctuating between over 10k to about 5k constantly (probably when NA or EU wakes up/goes to sleep) and considering the game this was heavily inspired by, its doing pretty well for itself.
Also trying to imply that the game is bleeding players because muh women is hilarious. All games have a massive first turnout, then lose a substantial amount until they finally normalise. The bleed of players over time is usually due to lack of new content. If anything, this game needs the mod tools out round about now along with the customization and maps they have.
Man this whole thread is just pointless. Can we go back to talking about a comp format that isn't just skirmish?
@Erwinicus said:
I'm sorry that you magical force field has a weakness.
It is a shield?
How is that magical?
TECHNICALLY, shields are infact WEAKER in game than in reality
The fact that the shield hitbox extends a foot or more past the actual model of the shield is what makes it magically retarded.
What a great idea to make a game based nearly entirely on timing and then add held block which completely negates all timing based mechanics. Truly galaxy brain game balancing right there.
You know that if they didn't add held block shields people would have had a riot cuz muh M&B muh Chiv reeee
@ToLazy4Name said:
why the fuck am I arguing with this weirdo it's a fucking fictional world this entire argument is pointless i'm leaving now is your chance to make a witty remark about how i'm a libtard SJW and own me Ben Shapiro epic style >:^ (
@ToLazy4Name said:
wtf why didn't the devs say in all capital letters at the beginning of the steam description that they will be adding women wtf.....
Maybe because its a fucking stupid idea, in the first place.
But y tho? For honor did it and the world didn't end.
And look what a fine job they did with this game...
As much as I'm not a fan of 3D Soul Calibur, it's still going. Also mechanical problems =/= cosmetic ones.
I recently read that Triternion was accused of all the possible nonsense. As old players I know that Mordhau was made in order to retranscribe the reality as close as possible to the medieval wars of the center of Europe.
made in order to retranscribe the reality as close as possible to the medieval wars of the center of Europe
@juxtaposition_cum said:
Adding females would be a waste of time
remodeling all the helmets, neck pieces, shoulders, torso pieces, waist, leg, and shoes
But they already dun it tho. There's an ini edit that lets you use female models. They just need to finish the head models and get voice acting done and female will be here.
@ToLazy4Name said:
wtf why didn't the devs say in all capital letters at the beginning of the steam description that they will be adding women wtf.....
Maybe because its a fucking stupid idea, in the first place.
But y tho? For honor did it and the world didn't end.
Why is this thread still going? Its just idiots brand new to the game crying that more customization has been planned from the start and that's bad because this game is apparently 100% set in medieval Europe? Despite the fact that devs intentionally don't mention real world places or countries and they've said themselves "fictional but realistic world" so they could have period accurate gear from 1000 to 1600 with humans running around deserts and open fields and castles?
13 Jul
ＫＩＷＩSomeone's been hitting that D&D
13 Jul
ＫＩＷＩBlocks don't work like M&B. By having the enemies weapon at the centre of your screen as you parry, you essentially do a directional block as you only block at that point and not all around yourself. It's pointless in this game.
Now if you're suggesting that we have held directional block ie. full M&B mode, you might as well go play M&B as this game's pacing and balancing is way different.
13 Jul
ＫＩＷＩThere's been a few videos on the topic of absolute balance in video games and how if you have it the game becomes infinitely more boring because it becomes so predictable you can call a game before it even begins. You can't have absolute balance and an interesting game with lots of variety, as the variety is in itself unbalanced.
12 Jul
ＫＩＷＩWould unironically be hype for Indian weapons and armour tbh. Maybe even for the devs to expand their time frame scope to include antiquity period stuff for muh full RP.
Speaking of, can we have the 2 eye hole aventail and helm as shown in this pic please?
12 Jul
ＫＩＷＩGuys come on, literally the best of both worlds here and we're having a hissy fit over dumb shit. All the other suggestions here have been "make shield bad" instead of addressing the issue of shields ignoring the timing aspect of combat. Let's use those Jimmy Neutron brains of ours and come up with a feasible solution that actually solves the core issue.
10 Jul
ＫＩＷＩThat'd be cool. Maybe when you parry you wind up the shield and swipe, like a Dark Souls parry?
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10 Jul
ＫＩＷＩU kno u wan dat 13ml uwu
10 Jul
ＫＩＷＩI don't see how this leads to RSI more than an extended combo window, but I do agree the way it is now is a bit silly. You think you'd want visual confirmation that you've struck someone before committing to a combo rather than queuing up like 5 attacks before you've even seen where the first one went.
10 Jul
ＫＩＷＩCan someone please remake these two in game?
10 Jul
ＫＩＷＩShield suggestion:
Shields have 2 modes.
This way you have a good anti ranged tool while also having to engage in melee with the same timing rules as everyone else. I don't know how you would choose which block you wanted without making it so you can't use your weapons alt grip but something to consider.
10 Jul
ＫＩＷＩDude, Mordhau's fluctuating between over 10k to about 5k constantly (probably when NA or EU wakes up/goes to sleep) and considering the game this was heavily inspired by, its doing pretty well for itself.
Also trying to imply that the game is bleeding players because muh women is hilarious. All games have a massive first turnout, then lose a substantial amount until they finally normalise. The bleed of players over time is usually due to lack of new content. If anything, this game needs the mod tools out round about now along with the customization and maps they have.
Man this whole thread is just pointless. Can we go back to talking about a comp format that isn't just skirmish?
10 Jul
ＫＩＷＩM-me too thank
9 Jul
ＫＩＷＩYou know that if they didn't add held block shields people would have had a riot cuz muh M&B muh Chiv reeee
8 Jul
ＫＩＷＩlove you
8 Jul
ＫＩＷＩKick is super short though. Maybe don't hold up your shield all the time.
8 Jul
ＫＩＷＩAs much as I'm not a fan of 3D Soul Calibur, it's still going. Also mechanical problems =/= cosmetic ones.
8 Jul
ＫＩＷＩNo, no it wasn't.
8 Jul
ＫＩＷＩBut they already dun it tho. There's an ini edit that lets you use female models. They just need to finish the head models and get voice acting done and female will be here.
8 Jul
ＫＩＷＩBut y tho? For honor did it and the world didn't end.
8 Jul
ＫＩＷＩWhy is this thread still going? Its just idiots brand new to the game crying that more customization has been planned from the start and that's bad because this game is apparently 100% set in medieval Europe? Despite the fact that devs intentionally don't mention real world places or countries and they've said themselves "fictional but realistic world" so they could have period accurate gear from 1000 to 1600 with humans running around deserts and open fields and castles?