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^ Proof helmet crests including horned helmets were indeed used in combat and therefore should be ranked rewards and/or bought for a large sum.

It makes perfect sense to have helmet crests and horned helmets as ranked rewards or for a large gold sum considering they were used in tournaments and combat.

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@esturias said:
I obviously wanted you to elaborate, to come up with more thought out ways to implement them.

Its predictable you would say that. I assumed that would be your response.

You actually stated

@esturias said:
you could put some effort into a post collecting possible models that aren't just fantasy crap and thinking about how to implement them into the game so that you won't see every other random player using one.

I already collected possible models posted throughout this thread, not that you bothered to check before making that baseless assertion.

And you stated that I should have thought of better ways to implement them "so that you won't see every other random player using one."

There doesn't need to be any further elaboration on the idea to ensure that if its implemented that it wouldn't be over represented. Make it really expensive or make it a ranked reward, you're just overcomplicating it unnecessarily.

I put it to you that it actually makes perfect sense to have horned helmets as ranked rewards or for a large gold sum considering they were used in tournaments.

Also considering there are over 10 historical examples that are very similar to these 2 fantastical examples:
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That provides a line of reasoning to include the 2 fantastical helms that I posted above on the basis they look very similar to the 10+ historical examples below.

I don't think it needs to be 1-1 historical examples considering you have rapier in the game (16th century sword), a gun (1911 parody called 1411), a carrot weapon and you have peasants with frying pans wearing plague doctor masks (17-19th centurys)

Mid 14th - early 15th Century helmet of Albert Von Pranckh
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Teutonic order helmets (13th-17th Centuries)
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14th Century (circa 1300-1330) horned helmet
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Bronze Gladiator helm from the british museum
Bronze-Gladiator-Helmets-Breastplate-The-British-Museum-Bloomsbury-London.-640x480.jpg

14th Century helmet of Valdemar IV
Coat_of_arms_of_Valdemar_IV_of_Denmark.svg.png

Knights templar horned helmet (12th-14th Century)
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14th/15th Century depictions of helmet crests including horned helmets

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Not exactly like them but there were historical examples that were very similar, so that provides a line of reasoning to include fantastical helms that I posted above on the basis they look very similar to the 4 historical examples I attached which you quoted above.

I don't think it needs to be 1-1 historical examples considering you have rapier in the game (16th century sword), a gun (1911 parody called 1411), a carrot weapon and you have peasants with frying pans wearing plague doctor masks (17-19th centurys)

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^ Proof helmet crests including horned helmets were indeed used in combat and therefore should be ranked rewards and/or bought for a large sum.

It makes perfect sense to have helmet crests and horned helmets as ranked rewards or for a large gold sum considering they were used in tournaments and combat.

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@KommunistenSchwein said:

@LetsFightíngLöve said:
These would be awesome too

Style like this with longer horns
d4ed9c4490e1ee160e438050a97b5912.jpeg

This helmet would be great, with black shadows in eyes so face is invisible
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It seems to me that this is no longer historically reliable. They look really fantasy like, especially when these are real horns, and not cast from metal. But this is my opinion. Maybe these helmets were in reality, but I have not seen such anywhere.

There were indeed helmets like the above two. I do not think it is important whether the horns are made from metal or wood or actual animal horns (Albert von Pranckhs helmet had its horned crest made from buffalo horns)

Marksburg 13 Jh Ritter um 1300 (circa 1300-1330 14th Century)
1280px-Marksburg_13._Jh._Ritter_um_1300.jpg

Helmet of Valdemar IV of Denmark (Valdemar the Conqueror 14th Century)
Coat_of_arms_of_Valdemar_IV_of_Denmark.svg.png

Teutonic helmets you linked in your OP.
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Bronze Gladiator helmet
Bronze-Gladiator-Helmets-Breastplate-The-British-Museum-Bloomsbury-London.-640x480.jpg

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These would be awesome too

Style like this with longer horns
d4ed9c4490e1ee160e438050a97b5912.jpeg

This helmet would be great, with black shadows in eyes so face is invisible
d067d67de691ef94cebecb6fabb84ac0.jpeg

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+1 for Teutonic order horned helmets or any of these below

To address the concern that such horned helmets might be seen everywhere, If they're really expensive or ranked prizes they won't be seen everywhere.

Albert Von Pranckhs helmet, a helmet style used by the Teutonic order
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Teutonic horned helmet
398fe0e3a2cd58162516ef08b756b7fa.jpeg

Knights templar horned helmet
2930c9fa12690f23324c173542dcd296.jpeg

Helmet of Valdemar the Conqueror
Coat_of_arms_of_Valdemar_IV_of_Denmark.svg.png

Helmet of Skanderbeg
1280px-Helmet_of_Skanderbeg.jpeg

Marksburg 13 Jh. Ritter um 1300 (circa year 1300)
1280px-Marksburg_13._Jh._Ritter_um_1300.jpg

Hrncová přilba
Hrncová_přilba-561x640.jpg

Bronze Gladiator Helmets & Breastplate, The British Museum, Bloomsbury
Bronze-Gladiator-Helmets-Breastplate-The-British-Museum-Bloomsbury-London.-640x480.jpg

Celtic Horse helmet
Celtic-horse-helmet-503x640.jpg

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Then, instead of spamming, you could put some effort into a post collecting possible models that aren't just fantasy crap

Nice, you ignored the fact I clearly stated that such helmets with horns were used in tournaments. Clearly not fantasy helmets. You clearly love to strawman an argument.

Case in point. Not a fantasy helmet but over 10 historical examples of horned helmets used in combat (Provided earlier on in this thread). So I already did what you suggested in this thread

Albert Von Pranckhs helmet, a helmet style used by the Teutonic order mid 14th - early 15th Century.
5e2f14a6d84da77773f628c0e95103a7.jpeg

2fdfd87f85358b06d564815a9277b9f2.png

Teutonic horned helmet
398fe0e3a2cd58162516ef08b756b7fa.jpeg

Knights templar horned helmet
2930c9fa12690f23324c173542dcd296.jpeg

Helmet of Valdemar IV the Conqueror - 14th Century Danish King
Coat_of_arms_of_Valdemar_IV_of_Denmark.svg.png

Helmet of Skanderbeg - Albanian Kings war armor (15h Century)
1143px-KHM_Wien_A_127_-_Helmet_of_Skanderbeg_frontal_view.jpg

Marksburg 13 Jh. Ritter um 1300 (circa year 1300-1330 14th Century)
1280px-Marksburg_13._Jh._Ritter_um_1300.jpg

Hrncová přilba
Hrncová_přilba-561x640.jpg

Bronze Gladiator Helmets & Breastplate, The British Museum, Bloomsbury
Bronze-Gladiator-Helmets-Breastplate-The-British-Museum-Bloomsbury-London.-640x480.jpg

Celtic Horse helmet
Celtic-horse-helmet-503x640.jpg

More historical examples of horned helmets used in combat:
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Horned_helmets

Even more historical examples of horned helmets used in combat:
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/07/11/horned-helmets-worn-many-peoplebut-not-vikings-surviving-examples-elaborate-helms-horns/

@esturias said:
and thinking about how to implement them into the game so that you won't see every other random player using one.

Do you have a learning impairment or something like that? Because you quoted me in your post above where I literally suggested ways that such helmets could be implemented where you would not see "every other random player using one", yet you asserted that I did not take the time to think up such methods that such helmets could be implemented without appearing everywhere?

@LetsFightíngLöve said:
If they're really expensive or ranked prizes they won't be seen everywhere either.

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@esturias said:

@LetsFightíngLöve said:
Devs give us helmet out of any of these 3 on the basis theres a gun and carrot weapon in the game now.

That still isn't an argument, because both carrot and gun are nothing but easter eggs.
Besides that, spamming the same nonsense into multiple threads doesn't really help, either.

you're wrong, because the devs don't read all the posts on the forum so extra visibility of the idea increases the chances that the devs will see the idea.

Also, as horned helmets were indeed used in tournaments I see no reason why such helmets should not be included.

After all, do you seriously think you saw peasants with frying pans and plague doctor masks in any of the great historical battles? I think not.

If they're really expensive or ranked prizes they won't be seen everywhere either.

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Devs give us helmet out of any of these 3 on the basis theres a gun and carrot weapon in the game now.

Just make sure they have some big horns on them no pissy small horns sorry but the third photo the helmet is great but the horns could have a little more oomph

The funeral helm/tournament helms with horns like the teutonic helmet below were indeed used in tournaments, I looked it up in the academic journals a while ago.

To address the concern that such horned helmets might be seen everywhere, If they're really expensive or ranked prizes they won't be seen everywhere.

Albert Von Pranckhs helmet, a helmet style used by the Teutonic order (mid 14th early 15th Century)
5e2f14a6d84da77773f628c0e95103a7.jpeg
2fdfd87f85358b06d564815a9277b9f2.png

Style like this with longer horns
d4ed9c4490e1ee160e438050a97b5912.jpeg

This helmet would be great, with black shadows in eyes so face is invisible
d067d67de691ef94cebecb6fabb84ac0.jpeg

Teutonic horned helmet
398fe0e3a2cd58162516ef08b756b7fa.jpeg

Knights templar horned helmet
2930c9fa12690f23324c173542dcd296.jpeg

Helmet of Valdemar IV the Conqueror (14th Century Danish King)
Coat_of_arms_of_Valdemar_IV_of_Denmark.svg.png

Helmet of Skanderbeg - Albanian royalty armor (15th Century)
1280px-Helmet_of_Skanderbeg.jpeg

Marksburg 13 Jh. Ritter um 1300 (circa year 1300-1330 14th Century)
1280px-Marksburg_13._Jh._Ritter_um_1300.jpg

Hrncová přilba
Hrncová_přilba-561x640.jpg

Bronze Gladiator Helmets & Breastplate, The British Museum, Bloomsbury
Bronze-Gladiator-Helmets-Breastplate-The-British-Museum-Bloomsbury-London.-640x480.jpg

Celtic Horse helmet
Celtic-horse-helmet-503x640.jpg

Medieval depiction of combatants with helmet crests and horned helmets
f45b3034ea850838a02ad604fecefd9f.png

^ Proof helmet crests including horned helmets were indeed used in combat and therefore should be ranked rewards and/or bought for a large sum.

It makes perfect sense to have helmet crests and horned helmets as ranked rewards or for a large gold sum considering they were used in tournaments and combat.

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Devs give us helmet out of any of these 3 on the basis theres a gun and carrot weapon in the game now.

Just make sure they have some big horns on them no pissy small horns sorry but the third photo the helmet is great but the horns could have a little more oomph

The funeral helm/tournament helms with horns like the teutonic helmet below were indeed used in tournaments, I looked it up in the academic journals a while ago.

To address the concern that such horned helmets might be seen everywhere, If they're really expensive or ranked prizes they won't be seen everywhere.

Albert Von Pranckhs helmet, a helmet style used by the Teutonic order (mid 14th - early 15th Century)
5e2f14a6d84da77773f628c0e95103a7.jpeg
2fdfd87f85358b06d564815a9277b9f2.png

Style like this with longer horns
d4ed9c4490e1ee160e438050a97b5912.jpeg

This helmet would be great, with black shadows in eyes so face is invisible
d067d67de691ef94cebecb6fabb84ac0.jpeg

Teutonic horned helmet
398fe0e3a2cd58162516ef08b756b7fa.jpeg

Knights templar horned helmet
2930c9fa12690f23324c173542dcd296.jpeg

Helmet of Valdemar IV the Conqueror (14th Century Danish King)
Coat_of_arms_of_Valdemar_IV_of_Denmark.svg.png

Helmet of Skanderbeg - Albanian royal armor (15th Century)
1143px-KHM_Wien_A_127_-_Helmet_of_Skanderbeg_frontal_view.jpg

Marksburg 13 Jh. Ritter um 1300 (circa year 1300-1330 14th Century)
1280px-Marksburg_13._Jh._Ritter_um_1300.jpg

Hrncová přilba
Hrncová_přilba-561x640.jpg

Bronze Gladiator Helmets & Breastplate, The British Museum, Bloomsbury
Bronze-Gladiator-Helmets-Breastplate-The-British-Museum-Bloomsbury-London.-640x480.jpg

Celtic Horse helmet
Celtic-horse-helmet-503x640.jpg

f45b3034ea850838a02ad604fecefd9f.png

^ Proof helmet crests including horned helmets were indeed used in combat and therefore should be ranked rewards and/or bought for a large sum.

It makes perfect sense to have helmet crests and horned helmets as ranked rewards or for a large gold sum considering they were used in tournaments and combat.

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Devs give us helmet out of any of these 3 on the basis theres a gun and carrot weapon in the game now. Just make sure they have some big horns on them no pissy small horns sorry but the second photo the helmet is great but the horns could have a little more oomph

The funeral helm/tournament helms with horns like the teutonic helmet below were indeed used in tournaments, I looked it up in the academic journals a while ago.
5e2f14a6d84da77773f628c0e95103a7.jpeg
d4ed9c4490e1ee160e438050a97b5912.jpeg
d067d67de691ef94cebecb6fabb84ac0.jpeg

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Is it really neccessary to make such a poll? Seems a bit like instances where scientists had to do some clinical trials just to be able to claim that video games cause excitement, which should be overtly obvious matters of common sense. (And in this context with the fact this is their greatest patch to date content wise, why would anyone say otherwise?)

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Thanks to the devs for listening to the community it was a worthy suggestion to implement. Istill cant get over the lighting in the new mountain peak. Puts chivalrys castle to shame

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All hail lets fighting love, who hast obtained the noble power of premonition through sound use of deductive reasoning

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I'm going to wipe on my shit on it for every day patchie isnt here. Consider yourselves warned triternio, if anyone dies from hep b the civil liability and blood will be on your hands.

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Le manjon as in le u esta manjon, or as in make it today.

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@PC_Principal said:
Most of you don't read well enough. When they say: "Patch probably about to hit next week" they mean they would want it to be a week but probably more like 2 weeks.

So going by that we could be seeing patchie as late as late as the 14th April if devs are running 2-3 weeks behind and going by my one week = 3 weeks schedule (when devs said in a week they meant in a week after the end of this week, patchie will be ready in a week)

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I'm pretty sure when devs said 1 week they meant 1 week from today, or in other words when they said in a week on the 5th they meant at the end of this week (the 10th), in a week (the 17th) the patch will be ready in a week (the 24th), as it's almost been 2 weeks already.

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why? simple, because battles in medieval times were planned by the leaders of different feudal systems and to win you had to capture the enemy king.

it's not rocket science ohshit.