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  • 22h
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@Rattsknecht said:
I remember one girl in my college unironically believed that "slavyano-aryans" wehe true founders and ancestors to every civilization in the world, she said there was evidence everywhere and told me to watch those documentaries. She also believed that nuclear weapons were used in 1812.

Forget whatever history lessons tought you guys.
Stp

Yeah Linglings one also said that there was a nuclear war in the 1800s lol

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  • 23h
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I am no way saying the death of the Jews was faked or that the Nazis didn't discriminate against Jews, but I do believe that there wasn't a planned "final solution" in the war. Take this famous image of Nordhausen for instance:
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This image is used everywhere to show dead Jews that were supposedly gassed. GASSED. Look at how many corpses are missing limbs or their heads, and look at all the buildings. They are all destroyed, infact there are even reports of the US bombing the camp by mistake thinking it was a military base. This image is just one of many that can be debunked as simply death of a country due to being surrounded by enemy troops. This was all done in the documentary I'm sure no one here has still watched lmao. If I had to sit through Linglings one and a half hour documentary on how all mountains are treestumps you motherfuckers can atleast try to watch this
https://youtu.be/RddqP0ABzwM

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  • 26 May
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Omg I just realised. What is Furst is pissing Vanguard off about neo-naziism and national socialism intentionally to eventually get Vanguard to flip a shit and start criticising socialism.mind blown.gif

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  • 25 May
 Survii

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Contains all the shit you need to know about Islam. Documents it all without any non-factual opinions

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  • 25 May
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@Punzybobo said:
Vanguard, did you even watch those documentaries?

lol dodged the question

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  • 24 May
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Alright, as I assume Vanguard didn't watch this the first time, here is a documentary that really opened my eyes on the holocaust. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RddqP0ABzwM Go in with an open mind and not a one prepared to be outraged.

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  • 23 May
 Survii

Then needs to be Crushed

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  • 23 May
 Survii

I feel like this thread needs to end with a meme from Sammy

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  • 23 May
 Survii

@vanguard said:
You seem to be retard Survii

ahahaha
I'm not being serious btw imho

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  • 23 May
 Survii

@vanguard said:
I also give up tbh.

BREAKING NEWS: ANOTHER COMMUNIST ISN'T KEEPING PROMISE

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  • 23 May
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@nohbdy said:
I'm out.

BREAKING NEWS: COMMUNIST ISN'T KEEPING PROMISE

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  • 23 May
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@nohbdy said:
I don't recall ever suggesting that socialization was correlated to the mode of production. I've always been skeptical of that tbh. Fact is that human beings are a very social and altruistic species as a whole compared to others. Do a quick google search, I dare you. "are humans altruistic?" That's not to say that we don't have the capacity to be egotistical though, because we certainly do.

flip flop flip flop

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  • 23 May
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"Anarchism developed rapidly due to the harsh economic conditions that workers and peasants had to suffer." yeah ok lets make everyone poor first then we might get communism. Pretty much sums it up, the lowest common denominator of political theory

bye Vanguard. Capitalism always wins tbh

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  • 23 May
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@nohbdy said:
and a Capitalist who has denied historical evidence and remains willfully ignorant of the heaps of Psychological evidence regarding the altruistic nature of human beings. What did I expect? Have fun with them if you want Vanguard, but I'm out.

You can look at the ultimatum game if you want evidence you are braindead, or go back and actually read Levine's (y'know an ACTUAL FUCKING PSYCHOLOGIST) 2001 Cross cultural altruism study that found no correlation between collectivism and individualism beliefs in predominantly communist or capitalist countries and their levels of altruism. I suggest you read this study first you fucking pretentious flip flopping arselicker.

Also, did I hear "historical evidence"?
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  • 23 May
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@vanguard said:
Are you sure capitalism rewards effort? If so, does this mean that most of the world is fucked up because laziness or lack of effort? Is effort what explains the wealth of the nations?

You are considering that in Socialism there is no motivation to work, which is not the case. People work to improve their lives, for the common good.

Entrepreneurship effort, asin "yo I'm a sociopathic autistic genius, I want money. I know, I'll sell some shit that people really WANT to buy." which capitalism then forces people to produce at the lower levels. Its all great having everyone be inventors, artists and game designers, but who the fuck will actually do the menial boring shit? No one. That is the flaw I'm trying to explain here. No one working at a communist cafe goes "yeah bitch 9-5 grind for the greater good!"

EDIT 2: This means everyone sees the chance to become rich and powerful, even if 99% fail what do they lose? Nothing. They end up in exactly the same situation they were in before, but at least with the chance of becoming something better.

What? I couldn't understand what you mean here, can you rephrase it pls? Be more objective.

I have to work as a binman to stop the streets overflowing with bins <communist binman
I could have a chance to become super rich and ditch my essentially forced job here if capitalism was in place <communist binman
I will vote for the capitalism party (if democracy exists in a communist utopia) <communist binman

And if they have the anarchy mindset then sure, they can volunteer or join a charity? There is nothing stopping people from being charitable nowadays so what does communism change about that? Forced equality and forced empathy?!? hell yeah!

What communism changes is the wealth distribution in society, I don't get what you mean here tbh. Are you sure you know what you are talking about? Do you know what is communism?

You always talk about how people would work terrible jobs for the greater good, I said that charities already exist so communists who want communities to improve could actually do it themselves already- nothing is stopping people from having helpful mindsets. I admit, this is a pretty shit argument

Take Cuba for instance, no one does a job out of passion, if you go to any restaurant you will only be served a cheese sandwich because everyone there is only there because they need their communist paycheck and not because they want to produce things people want to consume.

Cuba ain't no communism. How do you know that no one there does job out of passion? Lmao, are you also implying that in capitalism most of the people don't get a job simply because you need to survive, but because the are actually passionate about it?

Really funny stuff Mr Survii. I like how you, in the process of trying to criticize the Cuban model, actually criticized capitalism as well and didn't even noticed it. The problem with the Cuban model is exactly that, it reproduces capitalism.

You don't understand what I'm saying, by passion I mean people trying to sell things to people "I WANT more MONEY so I will sell better tasting sandwiches!" <capitalism "I can't get more or less money because of the equalisation of wealth so I might as well not bother and just make cheese sandwiches, they are easier and taste like shit but its not like I'm going to lose my job" <communsim

Oh you are sure? Amazing man. Tell us then how and why it would fail. You can't barely say what is the capitalism that you defend, I can't wait to see what you will come up with lmao

I think capitalism is great, entirely free markets and anarcho capitalism is a death wish though. I think we need regulation to stop people becoming slaves, radioactive waste being dumped in water supplies and human trafficing becoming an industry but I honestly agree with deregulation and supply side economics more so than any other type.

PS: Holy shit Derfurst that post above this perfectly explained what I was trying to convey with Levine's study and human nature a few posts back. Great job wording that lmao mine would've become a rambling mess.

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  • 22 May
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I CBA to quote 3 pages of text so I will say this is a general letter to Vangaurd and Nohbdy.

We live too complex lives now on a macro globalised scale to actually do what the Spanish did in their civil war, we have much more complex jobs and a much more complex economy than the world in 1936. On a local level I can see socialism working, but when you factor in the global economy (including trading, which hasn't even been touched on yet) it becomes way too unfathomable to actually work.

How would the manufacture of cars work? What happens when the guy that works as a delivery driver that transports the wheels to the factory gets fucking PISSED that his job is boring af, and demands to become an author instead, what happens when everyone refuses to be a binman? Ah well, people will eventually take the job when their streets are overflowing with shit but it will happen again and again until a glorious new leader rises up and promises to install a system that rewards effort (capitalism) and not just existing. EDIT 2: This means everyone sees the chance to become rich and powerful, even if 99% fail what do they lose? Nothing. They end up in exactly the same situation they were in before, but at least with the chance of becoming something better. And if they have the anarchy mindset then sure, they can volunteer or join a charity? There is nothing stopping people from being charitable nowadays so what does communism change about that? Forced equality and forced empathy?!? hell yeah!

Take Cuba for instance, no one does a job out of passion, if you go to any restaurant you will only be served a cheese sandwich because everyone there is only there because they need their communist paycheck and not because they want to produce things people want to consume.

I actually find myself agreeing more with what DerFurst says than you Vanguard lol

EDIT:
You need to remember the situation that the Spanish were in, extreme patriotism in a goddamn CIVIL WAR is going to have better efficiency than the standard grind of daily work, give it another 20 years and I'm sure it would've collapsed

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  • 22 May
 Survii

@vanguard said:

@Survii said:

@vanguard said:

@Punzybobo said:
Wow attacking character now, are we Vanguard? What did I ever do to you? :(

Sorry m8, what triggers me is this lack of wish to understand what one is trying to say, you see. You jump to conclusions way too quickly, before even figuring out what was just said.

And how can you argue that Catalonian socialism was any good if it didn't even have a chance to be tested??? I really don't understand this.

See the wiki page about it, it answers your question.

@Sammy said:

The Muslim train post was a meme you stupid nigger. Yeah, dude, the Nazis weren't even Socialists either.

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Yeah, far-right socialism Sammy, good job man!

Nazis weren't far right. They were authoritarian socialists

Lmao, authoritarian socialists that are anti-communist and say that Marxism is one of the greatest evils in the word. Also it's not like the very image Sammy posted says they are far-right, no.

Amazing​ Mr Survii, keep destroying communism ur doing a great job so far!

Yes, as the nazis were socialists not communists and their alliance to the soviets was more complex than "lol different ideology xDdX". They formed the stereotypical "far right" as being anti everything (gays, jews etc.) I doubt the nazis were REAL socialists though, its just what they called themselves. Maybe they were transpolitical

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  • 22 May
 Survii

"nohbdy
Don't listen to that poor guy, Vanguard, trapped in his own fantasy world.

Communism doesn't work because it is incompatible with human nature. Humans always look for a leader to centralize the organization of people make make the executive decisions. Look at even the most primitive human tribes- you will always find at least a chieftain. Human beings are smart. Our social nature exists in such a way because we know it is the most efficient way to run a group. A democratic control of the means of production would just slow the productive rate of a workplace to the pace of the slowest individual.

You can't let everyone freely satisfy their needs, eliminate all sense of profit, and expect people to just work out of the goodness of their heart. Vanguard's comment about how everyone would just work because it would benefit the broader society is ridiculous; this is not how behavioral conditioning works in psychology. The work that benefits society does not necessarily benefit the individual. Working requires the self-sacrifice of time in their life- time they will never get back. This self-sacrifice counteracts the personal motive of improving society, so you need a third motive of positive reinforcement in the form of personal profit in addition to societal benefit in order to incentivize work."

private message from nohbdy earlier this year lmao

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  • 22 May
 Survii

@vanguard said:

@Punzybobo said:
Wow attacking character now, are we Vanguard? What did I ever do to you? :(

Sorry m8, what triggers me is this lack of wish to understand what one is trying to say, you see. You jump to conclusions way too quickly, before even figuring out what was just said.

And how can you argue that Catalonian socialism was any good if it didn't even have a chance to be tested??? I really don't understand this.

See the wiki page about it, it answers your question.

@Sammy said:

The Muslim train post was a meme you stupid nigger. Yeah, dude, the Nazis weren't even Socialists either.

unknown

Yeah, far-right socialism Sammy, good job man!

Nazis weren't far right. They were authoritarian socialists

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  • 22 May
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@EruTheTeapot said:
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'Sup witches ?

Did you intend to post a picture of someone with a jewish nose pretty much directly after a nazi shitpost?