Mordhau

Right wing death squads when

Knight 4970 7663

Solution: Pinochet 2.0 in Brazil, instead of socialism and starvation.

Conscript 1960 1282
 vanguard

HAHAHHA you can't be fucking serious, this even triggers me a bit

Your solution to Brazil is another sold out fascist extreme right-wing dictator, that will dismantle our economy? You see, you are really not giving me much options here Mr Lazy, seems like its either socialism or death actuall. If that ever happens here, I would gladly join the local militia and kill every motherfucker related with the regime tbqh

We already had Condor Plan you know, the results were quite cancerous. I mean, cancerous for us, to your country it was actually great. I can see why you would want that I mean.. Yeah, thanks USA, u a really the savior of the world you know, what would be of Latin America without this canc.. I mean, without this bless that is USA imperialism lmao

Knight 4970 7663

Yes, because Pinochet totally wrecked the economy of Chile. That would explain why it's currently the most prosperous South American country. Got it.

Conscript 1960 1282
 vanguard

"Financial conglomerates became major beneficiaries of the liberalized economy and the flood of foreign bank loans. Large foreign banks reinstated the credit cycle, as the Junta saw that the basic state obligations, such as resuming payment of principal and interest installments, were honored. International lending organizations such as the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, and the Inter-American Development Bank lent vast sums anew.[64] Many foreign multinational corporations such as International Telephone and Telegraph (ITT), Dow Chemical, and Firestone, all expropriated by Allende, returned to Chile.[64] Pinochet's policies eventually led to substantial GDP growth, in contrast to the negative growth seen in the early years of his administration. Foreign debt also grew substantially under Pinochet, rising 300% between 1974 and 1988."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet#Presidency

Pls Mr Lazy, fucking wikipedia man.

Guy basically passed the controls Chile's mode of production to international bankers and shit. Remember the economical independence thingy? Yeah well, he completely fucked with that.

Yeah, making the country drawn in debt and giving control of its industry to foregin imperialist nations is great economical move. Got it man.

Oh btw:

"Critics argue the neoliberal economic policies of the Pinochet regime resulted in widening inequality and deepening poverty as they negatively impacted the wages, benefits and working conditions of Chile's working class. According to Chilean economist Alejandro Foxley, by the end of Pinochet's reign around 44% of Chilean families were living below the poverty line.According to The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein, by the late 1980s the economy had stabilized and was growing, but around 45% of the population had fallen into poverty while the wealthiest 10% saw their incomes rise by 83%."

WOW Pinochet 2.0 in Brazil when tbh, such gud government omg, thanks USA, god bless u

Maybe Chile is having some economical progress because, u know, they are not paying the external debt caused by your beloved dictator? Idk man

Knight 4970 7663

Wait, economic independence = being cut off from the rest of the world? Holy shit, if that's what you meant then you're DEFINITELY going to starve to death. Jesus Christ.

Knight 4970 7663

Also yeah boom haha got me look guys the country accumulated some debt oh man they're done for now please ignore how quickly their economy skyrocketed and the previously stated fact that Chile is currently the most prosperous South American nation haha

Conscript 1960 1282
  • 7 Jan
 vanguard

Being part of the world = have your economy controled by USA banks/corporations? Jesus Christ.

Look at the numbers, your beloved dictator caused fucking starvation. How the fuck is that good Mr Lazy pls explain.

Knight 4970 7663

Starvation? All you provided was a bunch of nonsene about poverty lines. People in America who live below the poverty line die more often from obesity than starvation. The poverty line is simply what the government determines to be "poor" compared to the rest of society. It means nothing. Also, being open to foreign investment =/= being controlled by banks and corporations, it means people can more rapidly expand their businesses and improve the economy and livelihood of their fucking people. The only time you end up owned by someone else is if it's your government who is dealing with them, in which case yes, you can end up owned by someone else similar to how our government is instrinsically tied to China, which is why I want the government to be as small as fucking possible.

Knight 4970 7663

If you want to deny the reality of where Chile stands in comparison to its neighbors, then be my guest. Its per capita GDP doesn't lie.

Conscript 1960 1282
  • 7 Jan
 vanguard

Yeah, nothing happened in that country after pinochet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Chile#Transition_to_democracy_.281990.E2.80.93present.29

Oh and not only that, as the government before Pinochet was really shitty right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende#Presidency

"The rate of inflation fell from 36.1% in 1970 to 22.1% in 1971, while average real wages rose by 22.3% during 1971. Minimum real wages for blue-collar workers were increased by 56% during the first quarter of 1971, while in the same period real minimum wages for white-collar workers were increased by 23%, a development that decreased the differential ratio between blue- and white-collar workers’ minimum wage from 49% (1970) to 35% (1971). Central government expenditures went up by 36% in real terms, raising the share of fiscal spending in GDP from 21% (1970) to 27% (1971), and as part of this expansion, the public sector engaged in a huge housing program, starting to build 76,000 houses in 1971, compared to 24,000 for 1970.[41] During a 1971 emergency program, over 89,000 houses were built, and during Allende’s three years as president an average of 52,000 houses were constructed annually.[42] Although the acceleration of inflation in 1972 and 1973 eroded part of the initial increase in wages, they still rose (on average) in real terms during the 1971–73 period.[43]"

Oh...

"Particularly in rural areas, the Allende Government launched a campaign against illiteracy, while adult education programs expanded, together with educational opportunities for workers. From 1971 through to 1973, enrollments in kindergarten, primary, secondary, and postsecondary schools all increased. The Allende Government encouraged more doctors to begin their practices in rural and low-income urban areas, and built additional hospitals, maternity clinics, and especially neighborhood health centers that remained open longer hours to serve the poor. Improved sanitation and housing facilities for low-income neighborhoods also equalized health care benefits, while hospital councils and local health councils were established in neighborhood health centers as a means of democratizing the administration of health policies. These councils gave central government civil servants, local government officials, health service employees, and community workers the right to review budgetary decisions"

What a shitty government it was! God bless Pinochet!

Srsly Mr Lazy... Wtf are you on about man this is just plain fucking stupid to be highly honest with you, its like you are completely ignoring history. Yeah, pinochet was great and this sold out imperialist capitalism is great for Latin America. Thanks obama!

Knight 4970 7663

The fact that you think those excerpts about the Allende government are supposed to show that it was a great system is truly humorous. I'm sure Pinochet's economic liberalization has nothing to do with the current state of Chile being the most prosperous nation in South America, and i'm sure if he had instead been a socialist dictator that they definitely would have still willingly gave power back to the people, since socialists love giving up their own power. They also definitely would be way better off than they currently are since socialist states always result in economic prosperity and definitely don't usually end up with mass starvation.

Knight 4970 7663

I'm not arguing this anymore. The fact is that Chile currently has the highest per capita GDP in South America. If you want to explain why that is the case without giving any credit to Pinochet, then be my guest.

Conscript 1960 1282
 vanguard

Not trying to tell it was a great system, just better then what Pinochet did and obviously Chile would have been A LOT better if pinochet never happened. Oh and also:

"Once again, Bachelet, a Social Democrat, has been elected as President, and she is seeking to make the structural changes claimed in recent years by the society relative to education reform, tributary reform, same sex civil union, and definitely end the Binomial System, looking to further equality and the end of what remains of the dictatorship. In 2015 a series of corruption scandals (most notably Penta case and Caval case) became public, threatening the credibility of the political and business class."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Chile#Transition_to_democracy_.281990.E2.80.93present.29

It was so fucking good that Chile is still trying to get rid of whatever is left of that government. I already showed you N arguments why it was a shitty government and it was from wikipedia only, you haven't told me one single argument on why it was good, you are just claiming, completely baseless , that the actual situation is a consequence of that government while even ignoring the governments that came after it. Why don't you show me evidence of that? Am I supposed to have faith in you now? Pls

Srsly, do you even Operation Condor man. Here, a MIT american man talking about it

@ToLazy4Name said:
Starvation? All you provided was a bunch of nonsene about poverty lines. People in America who live below the poverty line die more often from obesity than starvation. The poverty line is simply what the government determines to be "poor" compared to the rest of society. It means nothing.

Yeah Mr Lazy, people BELOW porverty line in south america are fucking obese man you got me hoho! 45% of the population became fucking poor, it must have been a great government with a very rich legacy right! Almost half of the population below poverty line, this is for sure what makes Chile great today tbh

Oh I forgot, this means nothing, yeah sorry

The only time you end up owned by someone else is if it's your government who is dealing with them, in which case yes, you can end up owned by someone else similar to how our government is instrinsically tied to China, which is why I want the government to be as small as fucking possible.

Hmm, like fucking pinochet did? Why do you hate this is america but in Chile it was good?

Btw, giving power back to the people? What are you, some sort of communist fuck? I thought you deffended a system where there are, you know RULLING classes.

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 mrjoe

what in the fuckery is going on!!!!

Immigrants, people coming from other countries to live and benefit in another country, should always go through a process. I agree with that. However the situation that's happening in Europe with the overflow of refugees shouldn't be blamed on Islam, but rather the cucks that thought it was nice to open their borders to thousands and thousands of refugees coming from dangerous war-torn places that could potentially contain terrorists!!!!!!!

Knight 4970 7663

I defend a system where people are free to pursue their own self interest.

Knight 3286 3002

I have a dream. That one day every person in this nation will control their own destiny. A land of the truly free, dammit. A nation of action, not words, ruled by strength, not committee! Where the law changes to suit the individual, not the other way around. Where power and justice are back where they belong: in the hands of the people! Where every man is free to think - to act - for himself! Fuck all these limp-dick lawyers and chickenshit bureaucrats. Fuck this 24-hour Internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit! Fuck American pride! Fuck the media! FUCK ALL OF IT! America is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it - we need to pull it out by the roots. Wipe the slate clean. BURN IT DOWN! And from the ashes, a new America will be born. Evolved, but untamed! The weak will be purged and the strongest will thrive - free to live as they see fit, they'll make America great again! ...In my new America, people will die and kill for what they BELIEVE! Not for money. not for oil! Not for what they're told is right. Every man will be free to fight his own wars.

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@ToLazy4Name said:
What i'm getting at is that the influx of migrants has caused a spike in crime

also:

https://twitter.com/FrDesouche/status/817320930837954560?lang=fr

blue map = violences per region
orange map = perçentage of muslim names given per region

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  • 8 Jan
 Maci

jesus, get a life guys

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@Steve Pigeon said:
jesus, get a life guys

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Knight 4970 7663

@Steve Pigeon said:
jesus, get a life guys

Give me Mordhau tbh