Mordhau

Why is "toxicity" said to be such an issue when there is a client-side mute?

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It is basically all narcissists from cali, NY and canada who dont even play the game ...#sadfacts

Knight 7667 14070

@CocyxTheGaySkeleton said:

@ToLazy4Name said:

@CocyxTheGaySkeleton said:
also the fact that they keep ur dumb ass around because u seem to have replaced your entire social life with this fuckin clown rodeo forum even though you like to say the n word and justify racism with statistics makes me very worried about the dev teams opinions on racism

Wtf I didn't even catch this edit wtf is this slander

is this the bit where u pretend you aren't racist cause that's real boring. u need new material, dog

Is this a joke of some kind or are you actually proposing that i'm a racist

If this isn't a joke then this is even better than when people think i'm a leftist for supporting female characters and other races in Mordhau lmfao

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@ToLazy4Name said:

@CocyxTheGaySkeleton said:

@ToLazy4Name said:

@CocyxTheGaySkeleton said:
also the fact that they keep ur dumb ass around because u seem to have replaced your entire social life with this fuckin clown rodeo forum even though you like to say the n word and justify racism with statistics makes me very worried about the dev teams opinions on racism

Wtf I didn't even catch this edit wtf is this slander

is this the bit where u pretend you aren't racist cause that's real boring. u need new material, dog

Is this a joke of some kind or are you actually proposing that i'm a racist

If this isn't a joke then this is even better than when people think i'm a leftist for supporting female characters and other races in Mordhau lmfao

didn't u reply to me about how there's no debate about being racist to minorities because we have the crime statistics. i guess that was supposed to be a joke but it was framed in a real sincere unfunny way and got liked by a bunch of ppl who were arguing the same thing sincerely. my bad if that's teh case

Knight 7667 14070

You don't even remember your own post that was pretty recent lmao here is the exact post

@CocyxTheGaySkeleton said:
personally i want my entire chat to be a bunch of maladjusted 20 yr olds who have the same opinions they had when they were 14 to debate about which minorities do the most crime

@ToLazy4Name said:
There's nothing to debate there though, we have the stats readily available

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@ToLazy4Name said:
You don't even remember your own post that was pretty recent lmao here is the exact post

@CocyxTheGaySkeleton said:
personally i want my entire chat to be a bunch of maladjusted 20 yr olds who have the same opinions they had when they were 14 to debate about which minorities do the most crime

@ToLazy4Name said:
There's nothing to debate there though, we have the stats readily available

why would i remember such a thing. i'm too busy sucking cocks, because i am gay.

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  • 4 Jul
 smokratez

This forum needs a mute function.

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  • 4 Jul
 Cadiz

@CocyxTheGaySkeleton said:

@ToLazy4Name said:

@CocyxTheGaySkeleton said:
also the fact that they keep ur dumb ass around because u seem to have replaced your entire social life with this fuckin clown rodeo forum even though you like to say the n word and justify racism with statistics makes me very worried about the dev teams opinions on racism

Wtf I didn't even catch this edit wtf is this slander

is this the bit where u pretend you aren't racist cause that's real boring. u need new material, dog

While you're reading peoples minds to find out what they think with your psychic powers, can you help me out at the casino?

Mercenary 1122 2056

@ToLazy4Name said:
oh no the dickhead can go be a dickhead to other people once he can't be one to me, what ever will we do :^ (

idk maybe they can mute him as well whoa

"There's an active shooter! What do we do?"

"Nothing. We've given everyone bullet proof vests tho."

Knight 7667 14070

@TheKingInTheNorth said:

@ToLazy4Name said:
oh no the dickhead can go be a dickhead to other people once he can't be one to me, what ever will we do :^ (

idk maybe they can mute him as well whoa

"There's an active shooter! What do we do?"

"Nothing. We've given everyone bullet proof vests tho."

do you somehow think this is a good analogy or is this a joke

Mercenary 1122 2056

@ToLazy4Name said:

@TheKingInTheNorth said:

@ToLazy4Name said:
oh no the dickhead can go be a dickhead to other people once he can't be one to me, what ever will we do :^ (

idk maybe they can mute him as well whoa

"There's an active shooter! What do we do?"

"Nothing. We've given everyone bullet proof vests tho."

do you somehow think this is a good analogy or is this a joke

It's to make the point that we're putting responsibility of something that is already against the rules of mordhau on the person taking abuse instead of the person literally breaking the rules. Trying to show it's a really bad way of moderating.

Shooting someone and being racist on chat are not analogous, but the way it's handled in my analogy is the same. Both are an example of clearly breaking rules that are already in place, and instead of punishing the person breaking the rules we tell the people on the receiving end to do something about it. It's not a solution, it's barely a band aid.

Knight 7667 14070

no the analogy doesn't even fit

"There's an active shooter! What do we do?"

"Shoot at him and call the cops. We've given everyone body armor and weapons."

THAT is much more analogous though this is still retarded. You shoot at them by muting them and you call the cops by reporting them. Fucking ez

Mercenary 1122 2056

@ToLazy4Name said:
no the analogy doesn't even fit

"There's an active shooter! What do we do?"

"Shoot at him and call the cops. We've given everyone body armor and weapons."

THAT is much more analogous though this is still retarded. You shoot at them by muting them and you call the cops by reporting them. Fucking ez

Shooting an active shooter stops the active shooter. Muting a racist just makes him move on to the next target.

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  • 4 Jul
 Plumstar

At this point cocy is trolling harder than based Clyde. No one can be this sensitive and insecure.

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  • 4 Jul
 esturias

@ thread title:
The answer is quite simple: Because a simple mute feature doesn't remove toxicity. And in this game there is A LOT of it.

Knight 7667 14070

@TheKingInTheNorth said:

@ToLazy4Name said:
no the analogy doesn't even fit

"There's an active shooter! What do we do?"

"Shoot at him and call the cops. We've given everyone body armor and weapons."

THAT is much more analogous though this is still retarded. You shoot at them by muting them and you call the cops by reporting them. Fucking ez

Shooting an active shooter stops the active shooter. Muting a racist just makes him move on to the next target.

and this is why this analogy is fucking stupid

Mercenary 1122 2056

@ToLazy4Name said:

@TheKingInTheNorth said:

@ToLazy4Name said:
no the analogy doesn't even fit

"There's an active shooter! What do we do?"

"Shoot at him and call the cops. We've given everyone body armor and weapons."

THAT is much more analogous though this is still retarded. You shoot at them by muting them and you call the cops by reporting them. Fucking ez

Shooting an active shooter stops the active shooter. Muting a racist just makes him move on to the next target.

and this is why this analogy is fucking stupid

That's your version of the analogy though. In my analogy they both get to move on to the next target because there is no proactive action taken and in both cases the 'target' is expected to just 'block' them. That's exactly what's happening.

Knight 7667 14070

no in my version the guy gets fucking banned because you reported him and we don't have to deal with the negative repercussions of filters or automatic bans or anything this is dumb gay stupid retarded cringe and also bluepilled i'm leaving and I dislike you and everyone else here btfo

Mercenary 1122 2056

@ToLazy4Name said:
no in my version the guy gets fucking banned because you reported him and we don't have to deal with the negative repercussions of filters or automatic bans or anything this is dumb gay stupid retarded cringe and also bluepilled i'm leaving and I dislike you and everyone else here btfo

Don't leave yet. Can you name some repercussions of word filters? I don't think anyone is talking about automatic bans. That sounds like a terrible idea.

Anyway, yeah you can report them on discord if you remembered to take a screenshot. Report system needs to be more accessible.

I'm really not asking for much tbh. Just implement streamlined reporting system, 1 day ban for first offence increasing in duration with each subsequent ban or something equivalent.

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  • 4 Jul
 Clyde

@ToLazy4Name said:

@TheKingInTheNorth said:

@ToLazy4Name said:
no the analogy doesn't even fit

"There's an active shooter! What do we do?"

"Shoot at him and call the cops. We've given everyone body armor and weapons."

THAT is much more analogous though this is still retarded. You shoot at them by muting them and you call the cops by reporting them. Fucking ez

Shooting an active shooter stops the active shooter. Muting a racist just makes him move on to the next target.

and this is why this analogy is fucking stupid

the analogy is fucking stupid because no one is harmed and the person posting things you don't like isn't a threat if the community doesn't like them vote to kick them from the server, if they are harassing you mute them and move on, I've had plenty of people try to troll and insult me here for my speech, I did one simple thing I didn't reply to them, and replied to people with arguments worth talking to.

if someone was annoying me in text chat I'd just block them and move on, the fact they can move onto another target is just going to keep them from forming any meaningful relationships online and they'll suffer the consequences for being an ass hole to random people online by not having any friends. The majority of shit posters like me aren't malicious. we post things you disagree with and try to make people laugh and make friends while we play the game not harass people.

The reality is you want your side to have and wield power. if its a centralized of censorship it'll have to be done by people and you'll want your side to be pulling those levers of power. you want levers of power to be created that the left can use this has been done, it will be done again, everyone knows that's what you want. The left does it in every space they find to create, grab, and wield power. anyone who's been on the internet in the past decade has seen it there is no hiding it.

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  • 4 Jul
 Cadiz

@TheKingInTheNorth
I'm really not asking for much tbh. Just implement streamlined reporting system, 1 day ban for first offence increasing in duration with each subsequent ban or something equivalent.

And that I think is where the problem lies from a practical perspective. There are like 8 or 9 devs working on this game. It was supposed to be released last year but had massive delays. Take into account the unexpected popularity the game had on launch. Now you want them to either put everything they're working on aside to create a "streamline" system to report people calling you mean names or get a discord server to act as moderators. I'm assuming you also mean they'd be doing this for free. Another problem with this idea is it puts alot of faith in the "victim". Photoshoping screenshots really isn't that hard and I'm sure it'll get abused. 2bc326511bd817256383a2304dee5456.gif
But this is so much harder than all of that.