Mordhau

Triternion's official statement in regards to recent events

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@Lincs said:

@TheKingInTheNorth said:

@idiotgod said:
Funny, a million random individuals buy the same game > now they are a community apparently.

...that's kinda how that works, yeah.

Which the developers of said game are in charge of admonishing or endorsing each and every position this group holds apparently, or face the consequences of the left wing propaganda machine.

Being criticized for allowing racism and other extremist ideas to run rampant = left wing propaganda apparently. Classic.

Let's say that tomorrow, a large, high-profile group of players in a large multiplayer game - we'll use EVE Online - created a literal nazi clan and started hunting down players they deemed untermensch and mercilessly griefing them. Do the developers of EVE have a responsibility to take action in this situation? Absolutely. These players are ruining the image of the game and ruining the experience of other players.

No, the devs dont. How about instead of being acting like a spineless pussy you stand up for yourself instead of whining to the devs. You can mute literally anyone you want, act like a man and take some responsibility.

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  • 4 Jul
 Lumi

Whatever you do, don't add a reporting feature. You'd have to automate it and people will abuse the fuck out of it.

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Journalists are scumbags, nothing new. Devs, yall are great. I was in alpha and enjoyed every bit of it and got 360 something hours clocked while constantly learning, teaching and enjoying mordhau with new players and friends.

Like holy shit, some bad players who just say bad things is an issue in every game. Like god damn

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  • 4 Jul
 PerryJoog

Let the community self regulate, we have been given the tools to vote kick and disable chat, the banter is 90% of the time hilarious

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  • 4 Jul
 Frb123

Keep up the good work, developers!

It makes me sad that you have to spend time dealing with this just because some people are really loud about it. I'm sure that the (silent) majority don't care about the few toxic players, and would rather have you working on new game modes, maps, and other fun stuff.

It's your game and you decide how to deal with this stuff. Just know that there are many of us supporting you, and we don't blame you for the toxicity of a few players.

Thanks for such a great game!

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  • 4 Jul
 mr_jah

Truly a shame to see how spineless devs are. Have you got enough money to throw the community away and become a good guys for SJW journalists?

Really love this game, but decisions devs make makes me think that game might lose alot of people in near future. It was worth 10$ that i've paid anyway, but i had hope that it will last for some time, seems not.

Well, another games are coming so i think sane people will just move on.

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@mr_jah said:
Truly a shame to see how spineless devs are. Have you got enough money to throw the community away and become a good guys for SJW journalists?

Really love this game, but decisions devs make makes me think that game might lose alot of people in near future. It was worth 10$ that i've paid anyway, but i had hope that it will last for some time, seems not.

Well, another games are coming so i think sane people will just move on.

What decisions are you talking about? In fact, what is this entire post about?

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mrw this whole situation

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In regards to everything covered in this post: PLEASE do not become Blizzard.

You do not need to coddle your users. You do not need to police their language. You have the option to ignore in-game and that's all we need. You give us the tools to avoid what we don't want to see and then you dust your hands off and get back to doing real work, like creating new content and solutions to things that are ACTUALLY a problem in the game like intentionally killing and blocking your own team. Some angry child repeating "the n word" is NOT a real problem.

In regards to the other topic regarding gender and race: You do not need "diversity". You do not need to bow to some screaming socialist Liberal Arts majors. You DO need to stay true to your vision. You DO need to either ignore these people outright or stand up for yourselves. If you want to add race and gender in an authentic way, you can not allow your users to decide what race and gender they will be. If you think the toxicity is bad now, wait until you give players the ability to make themselves as dark skinned as possible and see what happens. If you want to add women, that's fine, as long as you restrict it to only be available when the Peasant perk is selected. There were not copious amounts of women of African descent running around in expensive armor in the middle ages, but there will be if you add these options into the game.

I, for one, am sick of seeing the setting and immersion of entertainment media utterly ruined by "inclusion" and "diversity". It's completely ridiculous. It is patently political and you are explicitly dividing your current and potential user base if you engage in catering to one side of a political issue. You are a video game development studio, you are artists, you are creators, and you should NOT be political campaigners.

I'm sure you're aware that you have a very direct competitor to Mordhau coming out in the near future. I, for one, will jump ship in a heartbeat if you start catering to these squealing toddlers. As I said before, there are REAL problems for you to address in your game. The subjects of this desperate click-bait hit piece are not any of them.

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@Slouchmeister said:
Imagine making a medieval europe combat simulator and being surprised when people want to play as the people who were active in medieval europe combat, white males.

This isn't a medieval europe combat simulator.

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This is the lesson Hello Games learned in the mid 2010s. Never talk to the press unless you are 100% sure what you're saying won't be twisted against you for clicks.

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I also have an opinion nobody cares about!

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  • 4 Jul
 Lincs

Christ, this thread is a worse shitstorm than any of the women discussion threads were. The amount of drooling idiots with reading comprehension levels comparable to fifth graders is unbelievable. No, the developers did not give into "SJWs" or whatever. Yes, women are going to be in the game. It's been planned for years. Fucking get over it.

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It's really sad this whole situation...The devs have the money to solve most of it's problems, but I'm starting to assume that they are mindless and greedy... Not "inexperienced"

They could have fixed it by just putting someone to do this social media stuff for them, besides Jax... But no.

Maybe that is what they want... A highlight

Meanwhile at PCgamer...

!!!BREAKING NEWS!!!

MEDIEVAL EUROPE GAME DON'T LET PLAYERS CHOOSE BLACK PEOPLE AS AVATAR !!!

"I don't have any black people in my neighborhood, so for that I believe putting them in the game wouldn't be realistic at all." Says Marox the project leader of the game.

Investment for them means less money, not improvement probabilities.

They already said that 11 people can't handle all the work... What are you devs waiting for ?

The definition of stupidity.

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Yes, the developers are extremely greedy, which is why they are selling the game not at $60, not even at $30, but at $25, as well as having zero microtransactions, pre-order bonuses, and cosmetic DLC.

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I think we don't need female characters or characters of color. It's medieval european setting, there weren't too many colored people or women fighting... I almost feel sarcastic saying that but it's the truth and I don't get all this brute force equality bulls*!T from pc gamer and RPS. I don't like the SJW movement, the only thing worse than that are real fascists / racists. (yes. you're basically the same)
Leave the game as it is and send a message. You're not racists or sexists because your medieval game doesn't feature out of place people of color and women. Nobody complained about lara croft not being black in the 90s.
I would ask the person from PC Gamer if they ever considered that there were (at least almost) no fighting women or colored in middle age europe. Arabs / Ottomans maybe. So if I was in your place, I'd add arabs at least to keep it historically correct. But adding Arabs will also add more abu hajaar memes to this community and more space for racist jokes.
Or just make women a perk like peasants, make their melee attacks ridiculously weak or slower and buff their healing, give them classic women weapons like pillows, frying pan, kitchen knife, rolling pin, throwing pie (blind effect for few sec on headshot) to make it a realistic female gamer experience.
Also I hate how this game is being politicized, as for the community I'm more concerned with friendly fire than the chat because I'm used to this blatant racism online that I learned to ignore it. Half of them are trolls with pepe avatar anyway that just wanna trigger someone and jerk off to that. The message I'm trying to send to you developers, don't let your game become a fighting ground over politics. Politics has become a big loser show and you don't wanna be part of that. There's no more debate about subject matter only throwing terms like racist and SJW triggered etc at each other without even having talked to people properly. They just assume that you're the enemy because people like to have enemies nowadays. As a center left thinker I hate both political extremes and their inability to debate and simply accept other opinions.
My biggest issue right now is teamkilling and griefing as far as gameplay goes. I like to build but every time I do so, teammates attack me or kick me around because it just so happens they don't like ballista or something and now need to wage a personal war against all builders regardless of the team. similar experiences as Archer and rapier / shield medic.
So I'd really like an improved votekick system that helps us handle the greifers.

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@PC_Principal said:
Leave the game as it is and send a message. You're not racists or sexists because your medieval game doesn't feature out of place people of color and women.

Some people are of the impression females and darker skin tones will be added as some sort of apology or capitulation to the recent hitpiec- I mean articles that have been written about the game. This is not at all the case. It has been known since 2015 that those aspects of character customisation will be part of the game.

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Love the game. Forget the haters! One love <3

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@LuxCandidus said:

@PC_Principal said:
Leave the game as it is and send a message. You're not racists or sexists because your medieval game doesn't feature out of place people of color and women.

Some people are of the impression females and darker skin tones will be added as some sort of apology or capitulation to the recent hitpiec- I mean articles that have been written about the game. This is not at all the case. It has been known since 2015 that those aspects of character customisation will be part of the game.

Oh really... ok
I really thought it was that but the reason is still similar. I imagine myself as would-be dev saying to my colleague: "Damn, we need to include Dark skin tones and women or people will jump at our throats."

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Many thanks for the info Devs!

Also, I know full well gal warriors in Medieval Times weren't common, but surely they didn't just not exist either. Surely Norse Legend Valkyries didn't just video game style promote into Valkyries from the Base Class of 'didn't do a damn thing violent gals who stayed at home & just cooked, cleaned, & did laundry'... That can't compute with me.

I bet Sparta Women would be amazed to know that they & their tomboyish ways never existed & they just hallucinated it the whole time... Oh, & Amazon Warriors say "Hi!"...

The Irish & Celts were known to have strong gals in their time as well... especially when those gals were Redheads. (<3 Redhead Gals <3)

There might have been very very rare Female Samurai in Japan... also there were enough Female Ninjas in ancient times that they had a special designation to themselves... "Kunoichi".

Also, France... who here has heard of the legend of "Joan of Arc"? (Who if I remember right went into battle in Heavy Armor...)

So... what was that that the voice of Chauvinist Pigs were saying about Gals being incapable of belonging on a Medieval Battlefield...? In my Shamelessly Biased Opinion, Gender Inequality is Bullshit. I rest my case.

Lastly, this Game is the Dev's game & they can do what they wish with it, including deciding how they wanna bring Gals into the fray & how so... & I will abide by it & work within the parameters they grant us. With that said, I can't help but to hope I can inspire your imaginations with some ideas for future Gal Characters i'd enjoy playing in this game... in no particular order:

1: Exiled Redhead Irish Princess...

2: Keira Knightley Character in King Arthur Movie inspired Female Archer. (If she wants to die everytime an Enemy Arrow finds her naked belly, she's responsible for the consequences of her choices, Truth in Television. )

3: Exiled Female Japanese Katana Wielder Mercenary. (If I remember right, in Medieval Times, Gals who were caught wielding a Katana were killed for daring to wield such a supposedly 'sacred' weapon while being gals instead of guys... I envision the Roleplay that my Gal said "Bleep YOU!!!" to that sexist unjust rule & trained to awesome proficiency at the Katana, but was eventually discovered & fled her Homeland to escape Execution & self-Banished vowing never to return, she traveled West all the way to Europe & makes her living as a Mercenary for Hire to make ends meet & keep herself fed & such.)

4: How can I not make a Joan of Arc inspired Character... aka a Heavy Armor Female...?

Food for thought...?

P.S. Ya chauvinist pigs would already have a way to 'argue' against Gal Characters... it's called... "Your Weapons". Peeps like me who think Gender Inequality is Bullshit also have a way to 'counter-argue' as well, yep, ya guessed it... our Weapons! One of the major causes of Battle & Conflict was disagreement & non-acceptance of Ideals not one's own... Mordhau can embrace this as a additional component for Fun Factor!