Mordhau

Please do something about this infestation of edgy Nazis

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  • 30 Jun
 Unlikely

He is claiming there's an important difference between murdering Nazis and murdering neo-Nazis.

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Friendly reminder that the NSDAP (Nazis) came into power because the KPD (Communist Party) started beating up Nazis and "Nazis sympathizers" in the street. You see, the NSDAP came into power in 1932 not because Germans were just destined to be Goose Stepping racist Nazis but because your average, mostly unaligned voter in the Wiemar Republic saw one party promising to make Germany great again and another party promising to make Germany a Russian satellite and assaulting and murdering people in the street.

In 1928 the NSDAP had only 3% of the vote, not even enough for one seat. The KPD had 54 seats. The "far right" party of the DNVP had 73 whilst the reining Wiemar party, the SDP, had 153. But the Nazis came to power in 1932, how did they go from 0 seats to 230 seats in three years? Quite simply, because of the Communist KPD.

This was when news of the Holomdor started filtering through, and as Mussolini, a fascist, was taking Italy from a backwater, podunk irrelevant shithole into something resembling a modern nation. So the people, the DNVP voters, saw their party as being weak, limp wristed, and not anti Communist, which the NSDAP explicity was. The KSP actually gained 23 seats, putting their total to 77, but the NSDAP took most of the DNVP, and pretty much the entire DDP, a smaller Democrat party, that simply stopped existing in 1930 as a result.

So the KSP, saw all these "Nazis" gaining ground, they had to do something. So in 1932 you know what they did? They formed antifascist "brigades" that were just violent street thugs that went around assaulting and murdering anyone they thought was a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer. The idea was to cow the Nazis into submission by deplaforming them and making them terrified to go into public.

This had the exact opposite effect. The average person saw these animalistic criminal gangs as animalistic criminal gangs that would result int the complete destruction of Germany and usher in a lovely Communist utopia complete with famines and state sponsored executions. So they voted, and they voted for the NSDAP. The KSP even GAINED 12 more seats despite this, but that's because the line had been drawn. There was now either Nazis or Communists in the German government. The Socialists, Democrats, and "far right" Nationalists had all been replaced with either Fascists or Communists.

That is how the Nazis came to power. Because of violent Communists. Ike was right.jpg

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  • 30 Jun
 Unlikely

@DefendinMyBase just stepped right up and identified himself as a fascist sympathizer, as if that somehow contradicted the OP that there is an infestation of fascists around here.

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@unlikely
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Bruh I just wanna play video games I don't give a shit about the garbage fire that is modern politics. I hope all the extremists kill each other, frankly.

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When the right beat someone up it's false flag paid protestors. When the left beat someone up it's Jewish communism. And of course communism is to blame for the atrocities the Nazis inflicted.
That's just ridiculous, man. Also your whole "if you don't like Nazis, you are a communist" implication is quite extreme.

@DefendinMyBase said:
Bruh I just wanna play video games I don't give a shit about the garbage fire that is modern politics.

Unfortunately the communists forced you to write in this thread. It's all their fault you got involved.

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You’re assuming a lot of things I don’t really understand what you’re talking about. Like, what? False flags? I’m referring to history because I like history and it’s pretty easy to see modern parallels.

And you’re grossly misrepresenting what I said. And implying things. And in general being kind of a dick. You know nothing of my political inclinations or stances and I’d wager you’d be very surprised if I told you. But at the end of the day that’s not pertinent because this a feedback forum not a Reddit political thread.

It’s damn annoying to see this constantly get bumped while actual relevant threads go ignored while you guys yell at each other and advocate for banning people for using words you don’t like because if someone uses a word it means they’re a Nazi.

The game really does need a better player list system to do a lot of things. Easier to kick people easier to mute people some way to set people to an ignore where the game tries to avoid putting you in the same match and retains a mute. It’s frankly basic shit any game should have at this point. Also some form of auto kick and increasingly harsh punishment for team hampering.

But you fuckers aren’t talking about that you’re just accusing everyone you don’t like or who thinks you’re being excessively stupid and soapboxy a Nazi. Now if I’m a Nazi, or even some kind of Nazi sympathizer, that seems like a really poor choice of career for me unless it’s one of those hide in plain sight type deals. I don’t think I’d last long. But what I do think is that people like you are why people like Nazis are able to gain power. People generally don’t choose sides unless they’re forced to, and you’re the one pushing people like me to choose a side. My side is you’re all idiots wasting your time and mine on a forum about beating the shit out of mercenaries who talk about masturbation and make your mom jokes and I honestly wonder if you even play the game or if you’re not too busy whining to your hugbox that this game isn’t a hugbox.

Kindly do all of us a favor and stop posting. CBBF0A28-2B63-48D0-BD22-354EFEFBD3AA.jpeg

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People generally don’t choose sides unless they’re forced to, and you’re the one pushing people like me to choose a side. My side is you’re all idiots wasting your time and mine on a forum about beating the shit out of mercenaries who talk about masturbation and make your mom jokes and I honestly wonder if you even play the game or if you’re not too busy whining to your hugbox that this game isn’t a hugbox.

Sorry I put you in the hard spot of having to decide between just posting nothing or sympathizing with killers wearing swastikas. Is this your coming out as a Nazi or what do you want to say with this paragraph? Because either I'm not really pushing you to pick a side or you just picked the side of the Nazis. I'd say it's the former but you are free to correct me in that.

If you'd like history, you wouldn't start with your revisionist bullshit that puts the blame on the KPD. You are quite conveniently forgetting about all the offer stuff Nazis have done, e.g. intimidation and murder. Stop posting that non-sense and nobody is forced to clarify that what you said is fiction.

If you don't want these threads bumped then just stop posting in them.

The topic is specifically about Nazis - not trolls. You guys come up with the most ridiculous excuses for Nazis. Some deny the existence of Nazis at all in the whole universe. And you somehow you think I was the problem. You find it harder to disapprove of Nazis than to disapprove of me. Get your priorities straight.

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It’s hardly revisionist given that history simply doesn’t talk about the KPD and their terroristic actions at all. You can’t revise a history that doesn’t even have an initial run.

And again, many more assumptions and guilt tripping while you pretend Kajhit is innocent of these crimes. Let me ask you, are any of my statements in any way condoning or apologizing for Nazism? I’ve not given a single opinion on them but you assume because I haven’t lambasted the dead horse I must be for them right? What more can I honestly say about them?

I suppose I could talk about how they used the justified fear of Communism and the KPD to get away with their brutality, but then that’s going back to my main point all along. Let me just spell it out for you since you just don’t get it. Nazism is a reactionary force. All conservative movements are. If the status quo is not in danger there is no need for hardline movements to ensure they stay in place.

The KPD was that danger. A real danger that another danger just as vile used to seize power. Because the KPD forced people to choose sides. And people chose Germany over the KPD who had absolutely no interest in retaining German sovereignty and hierarchies. You need to understand the past. You need to understand how Nazis actually gained power, because you very clearly do not. You wanna fight Nazism? Stop enabling it by calling your own shadow one. That’s a good start.

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You are quite conveniently forgetting about all the offer stuff Nazis have done, e.g. intimidation and murder.

Not at all. But I was specifically talking about 1928 to 1932. You know what the Nazis didn’t do then? Brutality and murder. They were Boy Scouts in that timeframe. In many eyes heroes that were protecting innocent people from violent insurgents. The Brownshirts has very humble beginnings of essentially being an escort service for people as they went home at night, because the KPD was assaulting, murdering people in alleyways. It wasn’t very long before those Boy Scouts were kicking in doors to assault and murder anyone the regime felt a threat or undesirable. Darkly ironic I suppose.

Everything I’m saying is contextual. What we know now is not what the average German knew then. You very blatantly retroactively argue with hindsight instead of considering things from the perspective of the average German at the time. In fact, can you even accomplish that, or would their way of thinking be too alien for you? Is that why you’re so mad? I think you just don’t understand anything I’ve said because you’re not considering or are just ignorant of the politics of the past. Maybe if you weren’t you’d be just as disgusted with modern politics as I am.

Have a painting from 1926. 33315215-BAB7-47E8-B5D1-BF0B8AFC7337.jpeg

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The man in the forefront is a disillusioned Old Guard with haunting memories of the Great War and the dishonor Germany suffered clouding his thoughts. He’s thrown in with the Nazis to in his eyes, restore what was lost, with a sword in one hand and liquid courage in the other.

Behind him is a Christian newspaper owner, who refused to censor the Nazis as he believed in free speech. His olive branches are stained with the blood of that decision.

Behind him to the left in a robe is a preacher, preaching to a congregation that no longer exists, as Germany has lost its faith in anything, let alone a loving God.

To the right is a Democratic Socialist. A poo brain that is oblivious to the horror around him.

In the back German police attempt to curtail the food riots.

“The Four Crumbling Pillars of Society” - 1926

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@DefendinMyBase said:
It’s hardly revisionist given that history simply doesn’t talk about the KPD and their terroristic actions at all. You can’t revise a history that doesn’t even have an initial run.

And again, many more assumptions and guilt tripping while you pretend Kajhit is innocent of these crimes. Let me ask you, are any of my statements in any way condoning or apologizing for Nazism? I’ve not given a single opinion on them but you assume because I haven’t lambasted the dead horse I must be for them right? What more can I honestly say about them?

How about this:

Friendly reminder that the NSDAP (Nazis) came into power because the KPD (Communist Party) started beating up Nazis and "Nazis sympathizers" in the street

Or this:

one party promising to make Germany great again and another party promising to make Germany a Russian satellite and assaulting and murdering people in the street.

Where you imply that Nazis didn't assault and murder in the streets.

So in 1932 you know what they did? They formed antifascist "brigades" that were just violent street thugs that went around assaulting and murdering anyone they thought was a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer. The idea was to cow the Nazis into submission by deplaforming them and making them terrified to go into public.

Here again you ignore that Nazis did the same thing themselves while painting a picture of the overly aggressive communist.

This had the exact opposite effect. The average person saw these animalistic criminal gangs as animalistic criminal gangs that would result int the complete destruction of Germany and usher in a lovely Communist utopia complete with famines and state sponsored executions. So they voted, and they voted for the NSDAP. The KSP even GAINED 12 more seats despite this, but that's because the line had been drawn. There was now either Nazis or Communists in the German government. The Socialists, Democrats, and "far right" Nationalists had all been replaced with either Fascists or Communists.

Here you imply that Communists are worse than Fascists. Maybe that's too harsh. But you are kind of equating them which is already quite controversial.

The KPD was that danger. A real danger that another danger just as vile used to seize power. Because the KPD forced people to choose sides. And people chose Germany over the KPD who had absolutely no interest in retaining German sovereignty and hierarchies. You need to understand the past. You need to understand how Nazis actually gained power, because you very clearly do not. You wanna fight Nazism? Stop enabling it by calling your own shadow one. That’s a good start.

So the real danger was the KPD not a group of people that tried an actual coup.
I don't want to fight Nazis. I want to educate them.
I'm not calling my shadow a Nazi. I'm calling people parading under the swastika Nazis (although I can make exemptions for e.g. Buddhists). Something you can't because you are too "tolerant" for that. All your whataboutisms can't hide that you have a hard time disapproving of Nazis.

Btw. what is it now? Did you pick a side?

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First one: not condoning Nazis

Second one: also not condoning Nazis

“Where you imply Nazis didn’t...”
Well yes. In that time period they explicitly did not. That was the KPD. The Nazis went to great lengths to shape their image to something much cleaner than what they actually were. The violence the Nazis committed in 1930 was defensive in nature, and thus, to many in Germany, justifiable. Hence why they won the elections.

“Overly aggressive”
They WERE overly aggressive. They were advocating for open revolution and execution of millions of Germans. During the KPD riots injured Nazis and communists had to be segregated into separate hospitals because when the less injured awoke they frequently tried to strangle or bludgeon Nazis in the same hospitals as them.

I direct you to read a book called Bloodlands if you care to know more about how the KPD’s insanely violent rhetoric and actions, as well as their flawed outlook of considering social democrats the main enemy, ultimately led to the Nazis gaining complete control of Germany.

But I digress. The communists were absolutely barbaric. You have a very naive view of things. Violent communist revolutions absolutely plagued the early to mid 1900s and in fact, Germany faced an attempted communist uprising in 1919 that was quashed. But it was still fresh in the heads of many Germans in 1930. Now, there weren’t machine guns and mortars like in 1919, but how quickly might there be again, the German people asked? And how can we prevent it?

“Worse than fascists”
No I said the animalistic criminal gangs were animalistic criminal gangs. Perhaps if you read some firsthand accounts of their actions you wouldn’t dismiss that moniker. The people the KPD employed to do the street busting work were largely violent thugs and criminals. If they went back to jail it was no big deal. They were abhorrent and inexcusable while the party leads called for average every day Germans to join them in a great Communist revolution and purge Germany of its upper class and any who would protect them.

“So the real danger was”
I very explicitly said the Nazis were just as vile. Though, that came later. For the moment, the Nazis were heroes. And they remained heroes in the eyes of the average German for decades to come, because people were forced to choose.

I choose to not cow to you. If someone does not disparage Nazis surely they must like them. What is historical context? What are facts? You argue with such arrogance that it can only come from ignorance. I don’t need to tell you how bad the Nazis were. You know that. Everyone does. What I do see is people ignoring and forgetting and covering up just how bad communists were and are. You know, I think one of us is biased towards one of these two sides.

I think you’re the one biased. You really can’t stand the thought of your heroic Stalinists being the dumbasses that got Hitler elected. You can’t stand the fact that the communists of the past were violent animals that made the Nazi bodycount look like a saloon brawl, can you?

Nah, to hell with you and your revisionist bullshit. Read a book. Again, try Bloodlands. It goes very deep into how Stalin and the KPD really screwed the pooch with their divisive and violent rhetoric and refusal to band together with the socialist “traitors” of Germany against the Nazis.

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@DefendinMyBase said:
And again, many more assumptions and guilt tripping while you pretend Kajhit is innocent of these crimes. Let me ask you, are any of my statements in any way condoning or apologizing for Nazism?


All the shit you write is completely off-topic because the topic is not about an infestation of violent Communists. You are going out of your way to defend Nazis. On servers where it already is against the rules. You don't need to read a book about that. The official server rules would be sufficient.
I won't go into depth about your revisionist interpretation of history because we are already pretty close to breaking the rules of this forum. Let's just keep it this: The idea to blame the KPD for the crimes of the Nazis is just ridiculous, but you are free to believe whatever you want.

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  • 1 Jul
 Runagate

Mike you really should read his posts more carefully or stop pretending to be dumb

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What exactly did I miss in your opinion? I most carefully read the part where he is looking for excuses for the Nazis. Hence my reply.
The thread is about Nazis, not about Communists.

I also read that he thinks I'd support Stalinism.

Or what about this:

@DefendinMyBase said:
For the moment, the Nazis were heroes.

I mean honestly, what is this shit? And the next sentence is showing that to consider them heroes later on would be subjective, which only serves to try to sell their heroism at that moment as an objective truth.

And let's not forget that I didn't jump in to defend Communists but he jumped in to defend Nazis. It's not me seeing Nazis everywhere, it's some of you guys seeing Communists everywhere.

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  • 1 Jul
 idiotgod

ya let's keep the conversation rolling on this thread guys, real smart.

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  • 1 Jul
 Goatie

God most of your are so damn annoying but i keep reading anyway

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Wew lad you’re as dense as a neutron star aren’t ya?

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  • 2 Jul
 bruhmoment

@Kiste262 said:

@Unlikely said:

Im starting to think you're ironically doing all this shitposting, especially with that profile picture.

I'm not being ironic.

Maybe you're outnumbered and your opinion is in the minority. Maybe it's you who has to leave.

The forum rules say something else. And they are not subject to a vote.

The nazi-club is really old tbh

Says the guy with Pepe the Frog, "ironic" fascist meme, in his profile picture. I've seen (and reported) people calling for "Auschwitz 2.0" in game chat. @bruhmoment is not being hyperbolic here. Mordhau has a Nazi problem (as do we all).

Whatever fits your tiny narrow mind

Are you trying to seem mature? If you're going to try to hide the fact that you're a little Nazi cockroach, do a better job at it. It's painfully obvious, and no attempts at sounding like your painfully lacking definition of intelligent will help. Maybe you'll grow out of it when your age stops ending in -teen.

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this is so sad but can we murder everything that breathes please.