Mordhau

Stabbing and dagger are just too quick

Baron 25 6
 AleX

Hello,

According to me Dagger (with lastest update) is just OVER speed.

Stab are normally an alternative attack, not a main attack. You can full stab everyone with right weapon (ie: rapier, short sword, dagger, spear)
Best combo is dagger and stabbing ... just stab stab stab stab and kill anyone ...

Solutions:

  • disable combo for stabbing
  • increase stamina cost

This game need to keep some realistic things.

Knight 7590 13883

Hello,

You are bad, stop it

Baron 25 6
  • 10 Jun
 AleX

Well done ToLazy4Name !! You probably spend more time on forums than in game ;)
Lots of players complain about "idiot spammers" but nothing is done ...

523 566
  • 10 Jun
 Deadmode

@AleX said:
Well done ToLazy4Name !! You probably spend more time on forums than in game ;)
Lots of players complain about "idiot spammers" but nothing is done ...

Because nothing needs to be done 9 times out of 10. Some weapons are designed to stab. The dagger is one of them, believe it or not. Also, stabbing is an easy attack to do and often gets success, so new or unskilled players will rely on it more than they should.

If you don't like stab spamming, learn to play against it so it is not a threat anymore and also play amongst better skilled players.

Baron 25 6
  • 10 Jun
 AleX

@Deadmode said:
If you don't like stab spamming, learn to play against it so it is not a threat anymore and also play amongst better skilled players.

That's what I do ... but it's a suggestion thread. It's made to be used ;)

523 566
  • 10 Jun
 Deadmode

So by learning to nullify the threat of stab spamming and playing better players who fight more effectively, there is no problem.

What's the point of suggesting a fix to a problem that really doesn't exist?

Knight 7590 13883
  • 10 Jun
 ToLazy4Name

@AleX said:
Well done ToLazy4Name !! You probably spend more time on forums than in game ;)

Perhaps, but I still play more than you and better than you :^ )

Baron 25 6
  • 1
  • 10 Jun
 AleX

@Deadmode said:
So by learning to nullify the threat of stab spamming and playing better players who fight more effectively, there is no problem.

What's the point of suggesting a fix to a problem that really doesn't exist?

You can say that to ALL other weapon balancing thread.

@ToLazy4Name
I'm not a 14 years old guy. I can't compete that ... sorry.

Knight 7590 13883
  • 10 Jun
 ToLazy4Name

Shit he's not 14 what do we do now fuck

523 566
  • 1
  • 10 Jun
 Deadmode

@AleX said:

@Deadmode said:
So by learning to nullify the threat of stab spamming and playing better players who fight more effectively, there is no problem.

What's the point of suggesting a fix to a problem that really doesn't exist?

You can say that to ALL other weapon balancing thread.

You missed my point, which is that there is nothing to balance. It's fine. I assumed you agreed that stab spamming is not an issue with the game but a mechanic being abused by crap/new players because they know no better. In higher-level play you see far more variety in combat and stabbing is not an issue at all.

So what's the point of discussing the balance of stabbing if there actually isn't a problem with it?

Baron 25 6
  • 10 Jun
 AleX

@Deadmode
Yeah I'm agree with you about that.

The main problem => Stabs have the same stamina cost than strike attack but do more damages (against armor) and are quicker.
There is a mechanic to double the stamina cost when you spam any attack.
That's great but I think that would be more than X2 for stabbing ...
That kind of change won't affect any skilled player.

But if you can't combo ... players will combo stab with other strikes.
That can be improve general gameplay of frontline parties (nobody spam stabs in duels).
But that's not the main point here.

88 64
  • 10 Jun
 Threule

Nah u 2 slow m8

81 88
  • 11 Jun
 Xanith

@Threule said:
Nah u 2 slow m8

Knight 99 263
  • 11 Jun
 GAYFISH

The real question is why the fuck can dagger and arming sword 3 shot T3 torso with stabs? What retard thought that was a good idea?

Knight 7590 13883
  • 11 Jun
 ToLazy4Name

Wait dagger 3 shots t3 torso? Wtf are you sure

Knight 918 2523
  • 11 Jun
 Pred

@ToLazy4Name said:
Wait dagger 3 shots t3 torso? Wtf are you sure

It does. Cleaver too.

Weapon balance is out of control lol.

Knight 7590 13883
  • 11 Jun
 ToLazy4Name

Okay wtf I swear cleaver doesn't 3 shot t3 chest either someone post their stats right the fuck now

Knight 918 2523
  • 11 Jun
 Pred

Cleaver also does 34/30 damage to T2/T3 legs (Longsword 27 to T2 and 19 to T3).

Welp.

Knight 99 263
  • 11 Jun
 GAYFISH

Cleaver does 34 damage to T3 chest with strike, dagger does 34 to T3 chest with stabs.
Absolutely braindead weapon balancing.

Knight 7590 13883
  • 11 Jun
 ToLazy4Name

okay checked it myself you guys are right lmao

OP is still bad but yeah might wanna look into this crushles