Mordhau

What's up with this game and alt tab?

7 1
  • 15 May '19
 Shyguy

Title. If I decide to alt tab this game it just grinds to a halt and half the time I have to end task or it crashes. This happens in any mode I run it in.

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  • 15 May '19
 Pariah

@Shyguy said:
Title. If I decide to alt tab this game it just grinds to a halt and half the time I have to end task or it crashes. This happens in any mode I run it in.

It acts the same in Borderless Windowed?
I haven't had it crash on me, but it doesn't like being minimised that's for sure.
I've been using Win + Shift + Enter to switch between full and borderless when jumping between apps which seems to be okay.

What specs are you running on?

7 1
  • 15 May '19
 Shyguy

Here's my dxdiag


System Information

  Time of this report: 5/15/2019, 00:51:13
         Machine name: JACOB-PC
           Machine Id: {BF13758F-B5E5-4151-B2B9-863181360947}
     Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 17763) (17763.rs5_release.180914-1434)
             Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
  System Manufacturer: To be filled by O.E.M.
         System Model: To be filled by O.E.M.
                 BIOS: BIOS Date: 11/21/13 14:48:32 Ver: 04.06.05 (type: BIOS)
            Processor: AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor            (8 CPUs), ~4.0GHz
               Memory: 8192MB RAM
  Available OS Memory: 8090MB RAM
            Page File: 13757MB used, 2203MB available
          Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
      DirectX Version: DirectX 12
  DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
   System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
      DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
             Miracast: Available, with HDCP

Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
DxDiag Version: 10.00.17763.0001 64bit Unicode


DxDiag Notes

  Display Tab 1: No problems found.
  Display Tab 2: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 4: No problems found.
      Input Tab: No problems found.

DirectX Debug Levels

Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)


Display Devices

       Card name: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
    Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
       Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6798)
        DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
     Device Type: Full Device (POST)
      Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6798&SUBSYS_30011682&REV_00
   Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER] 

Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 7097 MB
Dedicated Memory: 3052 MB
Shared Memory: 4045 MB
Current Mode: 1080 x 1920 (32 bit) (60Hz)
HDR Support: Not Supported
Display Topology: Extend
Display Color Space: DXGI_COLOR_SPACE_RGB_FULL_G22_NONE_P709
Color Primaries: Red(0.636719,0.330078), Green(0.309570,0.620117), Blue(0.153320,0.067383), White Point(0.313477,0.329102)
Display Luminance: Min Luminance = 0.500000, Max Luminance = 270.000000, MaxFullFrameLuminance = 270.000000
Monitor Name: HP EliteDisplay E221 LED Backlit Monitor
Monitor Model: HP E221
Monitor Id: HWP3061
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Monitor Capabilities: HDR Not Supported
Display Pixel Format: DISPLAYCONFIG_PIXELFORMAT_32BPP
Advanced Color: Not Supported
Driver Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\c0337968.inf_amd64_d248ffd59bb9b64f\B337967\aticfx64.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\c0337968.inf_amd64_d248ffd59bb9b64f\B337967\aticfx64.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\c0337968.inf_amd64_d248ffd59bb9b64f\B337967\aticfx64.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\c0337968.inf_amd64_d248ffd59bb9b64f\B337967\amdxc64.dll
Driver File Version: 25.20.15011.1004 (English)
Driver Version: 25.20.15011.1004
DDI Version: 12
Feature Levels: 11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
Driver Model: WDDM 2.5
Graphics Preemption: DMA
Compute Preemption: DMA
Miracast: Not Supported
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
Power P-states: Not Supported
Virtualization: Paravirtualization
Block List: GPU_PV_HIGH_SECURITY
Catalog Attributes: Universal:False Declarative:False
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 1/8/2019 8:00:00 PM, 1958448 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: Unknown
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-24D8-11CF-DE76-A22ABBC2D435}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x6798
SubSys ID: 0x30011682
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem96.inf:cb0ae41405c918cd:ati2mtag_R575DS:25.20.15011.1004:pci\ven_1002&dev_6798&subsys_30011682
Rank Of Driver: 00D10001
Video Accel: Unknown
DXVA2 Modes: DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_VLD DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_IDCT DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_Stereo_Progressive_NoFGT DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_Stereo_NoFGT DXVA2_ModeVC1_VLD DXVA2_ModeMPEG4pt2_VLD_AdvSimple_NoGMC
Deinterlace Caps: n/a
D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
MPO MaxPlanes: 1
MPO Caps: Not Supported
MPO Stretch: Not Supported
MPO Media Hints: Not Supported
MPO Formats: Not Supported
PanelFitter Caps: Not Supported
PanelFitter Stretch: Not Supported

       Card name: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
    Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
       Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6798)
        DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
     Device Type: Full Device (POST)
      Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6798&SUBSYS_30011682&REV_00
   Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER] 

Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 7097 MB
Dedicated Memory: 3052 MB
Shared Memory: 4045 MB
Current Mode: 2560 x 1440 (32 bit) (60Hz)
HDR Support: Not Supported
Display Topology: Extend
Display Color Space: DXGI_COLOR_SPACE_RGB_FULL_G22_NONE_P709
Color Primaries: Red(0.679688,0.313477), Green(0.283203,0.650391), Blue(0.147461,0.071289), White Point(0.313477,0.329102)
Display Luminance: Min Luminance = 0.500000, Max Luminance = 270.000000, MaxFullFrameLuminance = 270.000000
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: Optix AG32CQ
Monitor Id: MSI1462
Native Mode: 2560 x 1440(p) (143.972Hz)
Output Type: HDMI
Monitor Capabilities: HDR Not Supported
Display Pixel Format: DISPLAYCONFIG_PIXELFORMAT_32BPP
Advanced Color: Not Supported
Driver Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\c0337968.inf_amd64_d248ffd59bb9b64f\B337967\aticfx64.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\c0337968.inf_amd64_d248ffd59bb9b64f\B337967\aticfx64.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\c0337968.inf_amd64_d248ffd59bb9b64f\B337967\aticfx64.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\c0337968.inf_amd64_d248ffd59bb9b64f\B337967\amdxc64.dll
Driver File Version: 25.20.15011.1004 (English)
Driver Version: 25.20.15011.1004
DDI Version: 12
Feature Levels: 11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
Driver Model: WDDM 2.5
Graphics Preemption: DMA
Compute Preemption: DMA
Miracast: Not Supported
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
Power P-states: Not Supported
Virtualization: Paravirtualization
Block List: GPU_PV_HIGH_SECURITY
Catalog Attributes: Universal:False Declarative:False
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 1/8/2019 8:00:00 PM, 1958448 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: Unknown
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-24D8-11CF-DE76-A22ABBC2D435}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x6798
SubSys ID: 0x30011682
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem96.inf:cb0ae41405c918cd:ati2mtag_R575DS:25.20.15011.1004:pci\ven_1002&dev_6798&subsys_30011682
Rank Of Driver: 00D10001
Video Accel: Unknown
DXVA2 Modes: DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_VLD DXVA2_ModeMPEG2_IDCT DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_Stereo_Progressive_NoFGT DXVA2_ModeH264_VLD_Stereo_NoFGT DXVA2_ModeVC1_VLD DXVA2_ModeMPEG4pt2_VLD_AdvSimple_NoGMC
Deinterlace Caps: n/a
D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
MPO MaxPlanes: 1
MPO Caps: Not Supported
MPO Stretch: Not Supported
MPO Media Hints: Not Supported
MPO Formats: Not Supported
PanelFitter Caps: Not Supported
PanelFitter Stretch: Not Supported


Sound Devices

        Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)

Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_10438436&REV_1003
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.7535 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 6/16/2015 12:00:00 AM, 4504320 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

        Description: Speakers (Steam Streaming Speakers)

Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: ROOT\SteamStreamingSpeakers
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: SteamStreamingSpeakers.sys
Driver Version: ()
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 7/20/2017 12:00:00 AM, 40736 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Valve Corporation
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

        Description: Speakers (Steam Streaming Microphone)

Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: ROOT\SteamStreamingMicrophone
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: SteamStreamingMicrophone.sys
Driver Version: ()
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 7/28/2017 12:00:00 AM, 40736 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Valve Corporation
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

        Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)

Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_10438436&REV_1003
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.7535 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 6/16/2015 12:00:00 AM, 4504320 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No


Sound Capture Devices

        Description: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)

Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.7535 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/24/2015 22:57:00, 4504320 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

        Description: Microphone (Steam Streaming Microphone)

Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: SteamStreamingMicrophone.sys
Driver Version: ()
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 7/28/2017 15:51:36, 40736 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF


Video Capture Devices

Number of Devices: 0


DirectInput Devices

  Device Name: Mouse
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a

Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: Keyboard
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a

Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: USB Gaming Mouse
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x04D9, 0xA070
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: USB Gaming Mouse
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x04D9, 0xA070
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: Gaming Keyboard G910
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC32B
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: USB Gaming Mouse
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x04D9, 0xA070
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: Razer Orbweaver
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0113
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: Gaming Keyboard G910
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC32B
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: USB Gaming Mouse
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x04D9, 0xA070
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: Gaming Keyboard G910
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC32B
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: USB Gaming Mouse
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x04D9, 0xA070
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: Razer Orbweaver
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0113
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: Razer Orbweaver
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0113
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: Razer Orbweaver
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0113
FF Driver: n/a

  Device Name: Razer Orbweaver
     Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0

Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0113
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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  • 15 May '19
 Pariah

Does it hang or crash when you flick the game window from one monitor to the other? (Win + shift + arrow)

Assuming you're running this off your 1440p monitor too.
What's the GPU load like with Mordhau running?

7 1
  • 15 May '19
 Shyguy

No issues when using the win+shift+arrow thing. GPU usage is about 50-60% when in game and totally flatlines when I alt tab. The game either starts lagging a huge amount or a lot of times just becomes basically frozen til I lose server connection. I guess it doesn't actually crash I just time out to the server and have to wait til it catches up and shows me being on the menu

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  • 15 May '19
 Pariah

@Shyguy said:
No issues when using the win+shift+arrow thing. GPU usage is about 50-60% when in game and totally flatlines when I alt tab. The game either starts lagging a huge amount or a lot of times just becomes basically frozen til I lose server connection. I guess it doesn't actually crash I just time out to the server and have to wait til it catches up and shows me being on the menu

Aaaah so it's disconnecting when you alt tab?
Check your app settings quickly > search for "choose which apps can run in the background" via start, should launch a systems setting menu. Check if Mordhau is set to On.

I remember seeing this being an issue with some other games.

7 1
  • 15 May '19
 Shyguy

I don't see a setting for any games in there.

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  • 15 May '19
 Pariah

My money's still on Windows cutting off or throttling the fuck out of the network when it gets alt tabbed, probably as some anti-malware security feature.

Check your AV? Just throwing ideas out at this point haha.

Might be worth raising this in the bugs forum too, should hopefully get the attention of a Dev there, I'd imagine they'd have a better idea what could be going on.