Mordhau

@crushed

Baron 1604 5082
  • 22 Apr '18
 Lincs

Look, don't take this the wrong way, but I and many others are getting quite concerned regarding your recent actions. In particular I feel like you've been making some bad decisions on how you moderate this forum, and I don't want to see things take a darker turn here.

You permanently banned a prominent, long-time and immensely well-respected member of the community (not to mention, one that has a history of taking through dev team's side in things like this) for some edgy memes. The situation would likely have resolved itself it you instead offered a warning via PM and told Humble to delete the posts, since as he's an extremely sweet and cooperative human being I'm sure he would comply. But instead you jumped straight to a permanent ban and offered zero warning of any kind. The only way we, the rest of the community, found out about this was because Jax (bless you man) vouched for Humble.

We, the community, find this to be deeply disturbing.

What I find even more disturbing is that when Humble went to address this himself, you posted pictures of the memes he had deleted and implied that he was a pedophile, in what I can only assume was an attempt to bully or shame him into silence.

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Let me tell you something. I stayed silent and remained on your side throughout the entire incident with Giru and Furst, and supported you on everything else up to now. But I feel like your conduct has steadily become worse and worse over time. You've lapsed from professionalism into personal attacks and silencing opposition. And as of now you've far overstepped your boundaries as a game developer, and I sincerely urge you to change your approach.

It's not good to have your community living in fear of something they said bringing the Secret Police to their door. Hell, I'm not sure I won't get banned for posting this. But fuck it, it needs to be said.

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  • 22 Apr '18
 crushed — Art

This topic has been moved.

Duchess 6865 9830
  • 22 Apr '18
 Sir Zombie

*It is amazing how Mordhau gradually becomes more like Chivalry with every patch and the devs manage to alienate all of the older users on the forums so easily. Their disregard for nonbiased moderators, open discussion, feedback and their community is slowly making every, even the most positive people like Humble Staff realise that somehow the the devs have made a game that everyone dislikes in some way.

The only way to fix this is to stop deleting or closing things that critizice a dev/mod or the game.*

Posted this a couple of times (4-5) and it seemed to disappear for some reason

Mercenary 2188 3902
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  • 22 Apr '18
 EruTheTeapot

I find it disgusting even in the most "edgy" memes that include pedophilia tbh BUT man its fucking Humble dude, who will like our posts, comments now ?

As much as I hate those "memes" they shouldn't get a free pass If they include pedo shit though having a suprise butt perma ban rape to, again, fucking Humble is nearly as disgusting as those memes in a different way imho.

I feel like crush is panic moderating sometimes, If rest of the Dev team is staying silent on it, its kinda on them too. Unless they agree, obviously

Banning every regular for dumb shit they have been doing for year and so will only make this place another dead-ass forum on internet. Going to lose its magic waaay faster before release in my humble opinion. Community doesn't want it and Devs SHOULDN'T want it and get it under control.

Also its fucking comedic and ironic when you close up a thread about "Devs and Communication" ffs,
what the hecky man ? You should have put a warning post about locking up the thread upon further reply-fest imho

RIP My thread tho :'(

EDIT

And why the fuck is this moved to Off-topic tbh ?
Isn't Forum Management a part of the game ?
Its a serious problem Mordy has and should be put up in "Known Issues" in patch notes.

Count 4205 9815
  • 22 Apr '18
 DerFurst

"This topic as been closed."

"This topic has been reopened."

"Fuck you guys, I do what I want"

"This topic has been closed."

Knight 292 904
  • 22 Apr '18
 GIRUGIRU

this is a game forum, if you want to post pedo/other degenerate articlesi would suggest making your own discord server or something and seeing how long you can go without it inevitably being banned

none of the dev's want to be held responsible for allowing some illegal degenerate circle to take root in the forum, that's why there is 0 tolerance. It just reflects very badly on the devs if that was allowed be present in any way shape or form

keep degeneracy out of the forums and you wont have any issues, not really too sure what there is be concerned about

Baron 578 965
  • 22 Apr '18
 lash

I come from Czech Republic, we tend to make fun of everything here. Czechs are renowned for their black humor.

Nazis, commies, everything. Plenty of times I saw a foreigner that was actually disturbed by this humor.

I agree with Earu that pedophilia is disgusting and even we, don't use this as a joke topic.

But Humble Staff is banned permanently? Like seriously, this forum is full of autists and everything should be taken less seriously than you would normally do.

But this guy? Like why? I can't help myself to think that it might be something more than just some stupid memes - personall bias maybe?

I have never even say Hi to this guy but people.. come on, don't ban your long term fans that invested not only $, but their time and energy as well for something this bizzare.

I do think that if explained why (like:"we dont want this kind of posts anymore, forum is about to go bigger with beta release and it might shine bad light on us"... or whatever..), he would stay out of posting such a stupid memes in the future.

Unban this man

1084 6143
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  • 22 Apr '18
 crushed — Art

@Lincs said:
But fuck it, it needs to be said.

What you need to understand, despite what you might think about this, the banning on this forum is still very relaxed and you still have a lot of freedom to post a lot of things. A good amount of stuff being posted, in the off topic section in particular, would have been removed/banned on the vast majority of other video game forums a long time ago, more mainstream game forums especially. Trust me I do not enjoy doing it myself, but there is a line that needs to be drawn eventually, especially since a good amount of people have expressed their distaste for the content on the forums/some users personally to me, both online and in real life.

As for Humble staff, posting imagery that promotes pedophilia will have consequences, this is common sense. If you don't agree with that, then I'm sorry but you need a reality check. This forum directly reflects upon us devs and we cannot have content like that being spread around and allowed.

As for the ban being permanent with no warning, I realized that it was too harsh, hence why he is unbanned now and has received a second chance.

Duchess 6865 9830
  • 22 Apr '18
 Sir Zombie

"You only got a second chance because of Jax, but right now you are very close to being permanently banned for good. Especially since you necro'd this thread."

"As for the ban being permanent with no warning, I realized that it was too harsh, hence why he is unbanned now and has received a second chance."

Crush wanting to perma ban Humble for calling him out but then realises that everyone else also disagrees with him and tries to justify himself - the story.

2376 4820
  • 22 Apr '18
 Maci

>crush
>abusing his powers and twisting rules to however fits his cause

Color me surprised.

Count 331 1394
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  • 22 Apr '18
 RingMaster

@crushed said:

@Lincs said:
But fuck it, it needs to be said.

What you need to understand, despite what you might think about this, the banning on this forum is still very relaxed and you still have a lot of freedom to post a lot of things. A good amount of stuff being posted, in the off topic section in particular, would have been removed/banned on the vast majority of other video game forums a long time ago, more mainstream game forums especially. Trust me I do not enjoy doing it myself, but there is a line that needs to be drawn eventually, especially since a good amount of people have expressed their distaste for the content on the forums/some users personally to me, both online and in real life.

As for Humble staff, posting imagery that promotes pedophilia will have consequences, this is common sense. If you don't agree with that, then I'm sorry but you need a reality check. This forum directly reflects upon us devs and we cannot have content like that being spread around and allowed.

As for the ban being permanent with no warning, I realized that it was too harsh, hence why he is unbanned now and has received a second chance.

Honestly this was a great reply to this imo, explains his reasoning and is actually pretty reasonable AND admits that he was harsh with the ban, seems like a solid way to leave this. We're all good boys at heart.

Duke 547 912
  • 22 Apr '18
 Goatie

The government is out to get us!

Baron 1604 5082
  • 22 Apr '18
 Lincs

@crushed said:

@Lincs said:
But fuck it, it needs to be said.

What you need to understand, despite what you might think about this, the banning on this forum is still very relaxed and you still have a lot of freedom to post a lot of things. A good amount of stuff being posted, in the off topic section in particular, would have been removed/banned on the vast majority of other video game forums a long time ago, more mainstream game forums especially. Trust me I do not enjoy doing it myself, but there is a line that needs to be drawn eventually, especially since a good amount of people have expressed their distaste for the content on the forums/some users personally to me, both online and in real life.

As for Humble staff, posting imagery that promotes pedophilia will have consequences, this is common sense. If you don't agree with that, then I'm sorry but you need a reality check. This forum directly reflects upon us devs and we cannot have content like that being spread around and allowed.

As for the ban being permanent with no warning, I realized that it was too harsh, hence why he is unbanned now and has received a second chance.

I mean, I'm no proponent of edgy humor and especially not of pedophilia. I'm fully supportive of consequences for posting that sort of stuff (even if it was just a joke, I mean if Humble was actually a pedophile I doubt he'd be expressing himself with a Patrick Star meme in an edgy joke thread).

The methods used, i.e the permaban and the public shaming, were what I disapprove of. I'm glad to hear that you've reconsidered on that note, at least - I hope in the future we can all be a bit more polite to each other before going straight to the nuclear option, yeah?

Duke 547 912
  • 22 Apr '18
 Goatie

The public shaming tactic and trying to use things out of context to imply something won't change because it's a method that has been used multiple times now. Really gets under my skin. Though i do see both sides, the execution of the situation leaves a lot to be desired.

Count 4205 9815
  • 22 Apr '18
 DerFurst

@GIRUGIRU said:
this is a game forum, if you want to post pedo/other degenerate articlesi would suggest making your own discord server or something and seeing how long you can go without it inevitably being banned

none of the dev's want to be held responsible for allowing some illegal degenerate circle to take root in the forum, that's why there is 0 tolerance. It just reflects very badly on the devs if that was allowed be present in any way shape or form

keep degeneracy out of the forums and you wont have any issues, not really too sure what there is be concerned about

Yes, we should keep things like furry scat porn to people's own discord servers and keep it out of this forum. They can form their own degenerate circles elsewhere. It reflects poorly on the developers to associate with such people.

Knight 614 1111
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  • 22 Apr '18
 Uncy

You don't really understand one thing forum veterans

The game is going to be released soon.

Memeing was all fun and games but new people that will come here won't tolerate things some of you posted here, that's why it has to be changed, we all want Mordhau to succed, that's why some content, even if previously tolerated, needs to be banned from this forum now.

Knight 2307 4907
  • 22 Apr '18
 Survii

Furst called a "holocaust denier and literally hitler" as a childish insult while serious concerns were raised
Ranten [perm] banned for taking his side
Sammy [perm] banned for making a fake mod account
Reborn [perm] banned for being an unpopular meme
Some random guy [perm] banned for posting some kind of (no nudity) meme hentai where Crush deemed the characters "looked underage"
Me [perm] banned for making a clear tongue in cheek remark about the political thread closure
Maci and others consistently short-term banned for nothing

and now Humble Staff banned for posting some MEMES that had some dodgy content, and was also accused of being a pedo unironically by A DEV. And hell, if thats the rules why hasn't 90% of the laugh thread users been banned? Every other meme is racist, homophobic, pro-genocide and other nasty punchlines.

Duchess 774 3449
  • 22 Apr '18
 Stouty

Free RebornChief all he did was call Sammy fat

Knight 2307 4907
  • 22 Apr '18
 Survii

@Uncy said:
You don't really understand one thing forum veterans

The game is going to be released soon.

Memeing was all fun and games but new people that will come here won't tolerate things some of you posted here, that's why it has to be changed, we all want Mordhau to succed, that's why some content, even if previously tolerated, needs to be banned from this forum now.

nah. Sorry mate but I have used 6 different game forums, all would put off would-be buyers in their own way, from children still using 2010 memes to extreme elitism. No one looks to them before buying a game, its why the "new player QnA" sections on forums are almost always dead with the only posts being "launch error, not getting useful responses on steam discussions" Banning forum culture just kills the most integral part of the community. Ban objective breaches of the forum rules aka direct GORE, actual uncensored PORN. Subjective issues should atleast be debated beforehand.

Knight 17 118
  • 22 Apr '18
 spleen

You deleted my penises of mordhau thread. I am sickened by this disgusting behaviour from you crushed. It was supposed to be a gathering of our penises and you thought you could just come in and ruin it. Not today crushed. I am your worst nightmare, my penis will be everywhere on these forums. You wont be able to remove the stains.