Mordhau

The difference between Tabards and Surcoats

Knight 1346 2934
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  • 4 Jan '18
 Tim_Fragmagnet

There has been confusion as to the difference previously, even from myself sometimes. However these listed below are correct.

These are tabards
Shorter than knee length
Open at the sides, sometimes tied shut. Closed at the front.
Notice how they are generally worn with or over what would be considered heavy armor


These are surcoats
Shin length
Slit in the front and back for riding horses, and closed at the sides.
Notice how they are worn with or over what would be considered medium armor.


What we have right now are the heavy tabard and the chainmail tabard.

The heavy tabard is super thick and looks ugly and uncomfortable over plate armor and the longer you look at it the worse it looks.
Not to mention it's open at the sides, slit open at the front, but completely closed at the back.
It's not a tabard, it's not a surcoat. It's an ugly joke. Completely change, or remove it.

The chainmail tabard honestly just looks bad and isn't a tabard either. It's super thin widthwise across the body and has weird physics.
It's also literally just copied from world of warcraft and does not fit mordhau.
Change or remove it.

Heavy tier should have a tabard

Medium tier should have a surcoat

TLDR, REE UR ARMOR IS WRONG FIXIT

Baroness 175 185
  • 4 Jan '18
 Edy_Nelson

I agree

Knight 1346 2934
  • 4 Jan '18
 Tim_Fragmagnet

More tabards


Another surcoat

Baroness 485 1379
  • 5 Jan '18
 arr0wmanc3r

Tim is the autist we need, but is he the autist we deserve?

Mercenary 2139 3794
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  • 5 Jan '18
 EruTheTeapot

@arr0wmanc3r said:
Tim is autist

r00d

Duchess 6831 9744
  • 5 Jan '18
 Sir Zombie

@EruTheTeapot said:

@arr0wmanc3r said:
Tim is autist

r00d

correct tho :^)

Knight 2029 3656
  • 5 Jan '18
 Runagate

Tim you good man, now that I know the truth it won't stop bothering me. There's something about the current armours that looks just slightly too unhistorical to not bother me.

Max pls fix

837 1446

Yessssssss more tabards/surcoats

Mercenary 1014 1851

I don't know about anyone who doesn't want more of these... devs plz

Knight 1346 2934
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  • 5 Jan '18
 Tim_Fragmagnet

Again, it's less about getting more of them, and more about getting them properly created for the proper armor tiers.

The "tabards" we have right now aren't tabards, nor are they surcoats.
We don't have any in the first place.

Knight 1810 2189
  • 6 Jan '18
 Void

Tabards and surcoats are awesome. I wear the one that's in the game right now and I don't really have a problem with it, but it would be great if we had more of them.

Knight 203 587
  • 7 Jan '18
 Iodine

I agree with this completely and actually asked maxilator about it once on a server.
He said the original tabard (See; any old mordhau pre-alpha screenshots) was "ugly", and elweb changed it to what we now have; the "Tabard".

Knight 1346 2934
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  • 10 Jan '18
 Tim_Fragmagnet

This is all you need to do to the heavy tabard to make it an actual tabard. Just shorten it.
It's already open at the sides.

After this, you're free to make as many tabard variations for heavy as you want, on top of the hundreds of patterns they could have.

And that frees up the surcoat for medium so there's no "lookalike" making armor difficult to tell.

As such

Longer chainmail would also be appreciated

Duke 754 1197
  • 12 May '18
 Stumpy

we need surcoats and mail armor.

Knight 31 71
  • 4 Dec '18
 NarcolepticHound

I don't mean to necropost... but I'm gonna necropost. I feel this really REALLY needs attention. Have any of the devs acknowledged this?

Baron 2355 3360
  • 5 Dec '18
 Xekratos

Good necro though. At least it's worth. These things are something to look at. I do think the Maille Tabard looks like shit. We need a proper hauberk or shirt with a surcoat. Hell we need a proper Hauberk lmao. We also need a Tabard and we need to name them properly.

Sellsword 567 1847
  • 5 Dec '18
 Goof

The shoulders of the tabard and many other heavy torso armors look terrible and require the use of some type of pauldrons.

Sometimes I just don't want anything on my shoulders, but the eyesore makes it a requirement.

Knight 2029 3656
  • 5 Dec '18
 Runagate

Yeah everything in the game has, for some reason, to have an extremely ugly leather border that you can't even colour. It's neither good-looking nor historical.

Sellsword 567 1847
  • 5 Dec '18
 Goof

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This is what I'm talking about, the shoulders of the tabard are TERRIBLE

Knight 2029 3656
  • 5 Dec '18
 Runagate

@Goof said:
20181205_111133.jpg

This is what I'm talking about, the shoulders of the tabard are TERRIBLE

It does have those disgusting leather bits too.